Prospect Info: Ivan Demidov (2024 5th OA): SKA St. Petersburg (KHL): Part II

[CHwest]

The slap shots wouldn't go in now because the goaltenders have 100 lbs more equipment.


Yes you need to be agile on your skates like Hutson.

I understand the why's, it doesn't negate the fact that it wouldn't happen now.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So far he's got nothing.

No wonder people talk about everyone but him

What a bust

 

[Sasha Orlov]

So far he's got nothing.

No wonder people talk about everyone but him

What a bust

He sucks, and the worst part is we probably couldn’t even trade him because his value has never been lower

 

[WeThreeKings]

Well now comes the challenge of getting himself out of a slump. I'd rather he learn how to do that at the KHL level than in Montreal when you are claimed to be a bust the second you don't produce in a game as a rookie.

 

[the valiant effort]

It’s time we simply move on (and admit that the best players of the ‘80s would still feast today).

 

[TomKosto]

Why? Are we finally going to retire Pezzetta jersey?

Haha know you are joking but hes gonna get waived next camp, bet on it.

 

[rahad]

Haha know you are joking but hes gonna get waived next camp, bet on it.

Yeah. He is gone this summer. No need to waive him. With Demidov coming in, Dach coming back from injury. Roy and Beck pushing for a NHL spot. His hockey career is kinda over with us and maybe in NHL.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

It’s time we simply move on (and admit that the best players of the ‘80s would still feast today).

Many of them would not but the superstars would.

 

[Maitz]

Nobody is talking about it but do you guys think Hugo will try to find a Russian UFA to sign here and mentor Demidov and help him to transition to the NHL? If he is the next Habs superstar, it's something I would consider

 

[JianYang]

Bedard was never deemed as "Generational" to the vast majority of general managers and their scouts. He was always viewed a notch below the McDavid's and Crosby's. Franchise player, yes.....generational, no.

He was hyped pretty hard. I equate his hype to Joe Thornton level.

Mcdavid and Crosby hype was in another tier. That was like Mario, and lindros level.

 

[Miller Time]

Nobody is talking about it but do you guys think Hugo will try to find a Russian UFA to sign here and mentor Demidov and help him to transition to the NHL? If he is the next Habs superstar, it's something I would consider

It's been discussed...

In theory, it could be a good idea.

In reality.... it would take far more than shared nationality/language for there to be a positive impact

 

[WeThreeKings]

Nobody is talking about it but do you guys think Hugo will try to find a Russian UFA to sign here and mentor Demidov and help him to transition to the NHL? If he is the next Habs superstar, it's something I would consider

Try to convince Malkin for a year.

 

[Bombshell11]

He was hyped pretty hard. I equate his hype to Joe Thornton level.

Mcdavid and Crosby hype was in another tier. That was like Mario, and lindros level.

There’s never been a more hyped up player than Bedard.

Crosby was really huge, alot bigger than McDavid but nothing comes close to Bedard’s hype.

 

[junyab]

Nobody is talking about it but do you guys think Hugo will try to find a Russian UFA to sign here and mentor Demidov and help him to transition to the NHL? If he is the next Habs superstar, it's something I would consider

With his swagger, confidence, personality and skillset I don't think it'll be necessary.

 

[Knuckles30]

Nobody is talking about it but do you guys think Hugo will try to find a Russian UFA to sign here and mentor Demidov and help him to transition to the NHL? If he is the next Habs superstar, it's something I would consider

Ivan Barbashev could be an interesting target. Don't know why he would be available but Vegas is always tinkering...

 

[JianYang]

Nobody is talking about it but do you guys think Hugo will try to find a Russian UFA to sign here and mentor Demidov and help him to transition to the NHL? If he is the next Habs superstar, it's something I would consider

I think it's something that would be nice to have as opposed to a necessity. So I wouldn't bend over backwards for it.

But I do recall when markov came over, petrov was helping him out here. Markov didn't speak a word of english as far as I recall though.

 

[Knuckles30]

I think it's something that would be nice to have as opposed to a necessity. So I wouldn't bend over backwards for it.

But I do recall when markov came over, petrov was helping him out here. Markov didn't speak a word of english as far as I recall though.

PJ Stock had a fantastic story on Markov that he told on 690 years ago. Essentially the Habs were doing a team building activity in training camp where they played soccer. Everyone was paired up, 1 guy blindfolded and 2 guy giving instructions. Only the blindfolded guy can touch the ball. So of course PJ gets blindfolded and paired with rookie Markov, who speaks no English. With no instructions, PJ ran into someone and broke his own nose. To hear him tell the story, Alain Vigneault was disgusted and said something along the lines of "this is the tough guy they got me?" and never gave PJ a chance - he played all of 20 games before being traded.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Nobody is talking about it but do you guys think Hugo will try to find a Russian UFA to sign here and mentor Demidov and help him to transition to the NHL? If he is the next Habs superstar, it's something I would consider

Guys like Karprizov, Michkov and Romanov have come over from Russia in recent years and have transitioned well without any Russian teammates. I think it helps that Demidov can understand and speak English pretty well which makes it not a necessity to have a Russian mentor.

If we could add a Russian that could improve the lineup it would be great, but if not I think we have a good group of young leaders than can help Demidov transition.

 

[Artaud]

There’s never been a more hyped up player than Bedard.

Crosby was really huge, alot bigger than McDavid but nothing comes close to Bedard’s hype.

Hard disagree. The Crosby hype vastly surpassed Bedard's due to a mix of his pedigree and the circumstances. I don't think we'll see Crosby level hype again. It was the lockout year and it resulted in the biggest draft lottery every drawn. Add to that the fact that he joined Lemieux's Penguins, creating a passing of the guard narrative between generational talents.

Bedard was always seen as a lesser prospect than McDavid. McDavid's speed is something the hockey world had truly never seen, and it turns out that it is the most game-breaking skill of any player in the current era.

Bedard oozes skill but he remains an undersized, one-dimensional forward. That was the case before the draft and is still the case today. Neither Crosby or McDavid had such a knock.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Hard disagree. The Crosby hype vastly surpassed Bedard's due to a mix of his pedigree and the circumstances. I don't think we'll see Crosby level hype again. It was the lockout year and it resulted in the biggest draft lottery every drawn. Add to that the fact that he joined Lemieux's Penguins, creating a passing of the guard narrative between generational talents.

Bedard was always seen as a lesser prospect than McDavid. McDavid's speed is something the hockey world had truly never seen, and it turns out that it is the most game-breaking skill of any player in the current era.

Bedard oozes skill but he remains an undersized, one-dimensional forward. That was the case before the draft and is still the case today. Neither Crosby or McDavid had such a knock.

Crosby's hype was insane.