It's time for Capuano to go

[Sidney the Kidney]

Maybe every fan of every team says this, but I feel like we blow more 3rd period leads and opportunities than any other team

And that to me, is a sign of coaching.

It's a sign we can play with, and beat the other teams, but they figure something out mid-game that they can exploit.We simply don't seem to have that ability to adjust mid-game, and that responsibility has to be squarely on the coach

I'm not sure if the numbers back up that assertion.

The Isles are 8-2-1 when leading after 2 periods. Granted, that doesn't take into account the games the Isles blew a lead but still managed to either hang on for a win, or retook the lead to win. But just in terms of outright blowing leads that result in losses, "by the numbers" they're not bad.

 

[Seph]

I'm not sure if the numbers back up that assertion.

The Isles are 8-2-1 when leading after 2 periods. Granted, that doesn't take into account the games the Isles blew a lead but still managed to either hang on for a win, or retook the lead to win. But just in terms of outright blowing leads that result in losses, "by the numbers" they're not bad.

Islanders are 22nd in the league in win% when leading after two periods:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.ht...=winPctAfterLead2P&viewName=recordWhenLeading

I was very surprised to find that NJD and BOS are both worse than the Islanders in this regard.

 

[Seph]

Pretty sure it was during the Ranger game where he had Vis, Hickey and Reasoner killing the OT penalty. It's like he just rolls whoever's next in his head without considering the situation on the ice at all.

It was Reasoner with AMac and Hamonic. Given Nielsen's poor faceoff ability, this was a pretty logical decision.

As for Streit and Vis in the last couple minutes of the Ottawa game, Cap had clearly shortened his bench to his vets, and AMac and Hamonic had just finished a minute long shift. It's hardly uncommon for a coach to prefer vets to rookies in these sorts of situations.

I don't love Capuano or anything, but these are kind of ridiculous shots to be taking at him when there are enough legit ones out there. Most coaches would've done the same thing in these two situations.

 

[LeapOnOver]

It was Reasoner with AMac and Hamonic. Given Nielsen's poor faceoff ability, this was a pretty logical decision.

As for Streit and Vis in the last couple minutes of the Ottawa game, Cap had clearly shortened his bench to his vets, and AMac and Hamonic had just finished a minute long shift. It's hardly uncommon for a coach to prefer vets to rookies in these sorts of situations.

I don't love Capuano or anything, but these are kind of ridiculous shots to be taking at him when there are enough legit ones out there. Most coaches would've done the same thing in these two situations.

Yeah, I agree nothing wrong with those guys out there at that point in the game. My problem with Cappy doesn't have to do with line matching. I don't think he's too bad at that and honestly the brunt of that stuff falls on the Assistant coaches. Cappy's glaring weakness is his inability to motivate the club. He's got no fire, no heart, and I'm not even saying that he's a lazy person but he gives that perception. Perception is a big thing to players as a coach is really a mental coach as well as everything else. He lacks creativity and he doesn't get the players to respond.

He can't out of here fast enough for me at this point....

 

[12Dog]

Team is consistently flat to start games and periods, that is on the coach. And as far as his line matching, which leaves a lot to be desired, how many times after the other team scores does he send out the fourth line? This is also why they give up goals in bunches. If McDonald and Hamonic were tired and the alternative was Streit and Visnovsky paired together at the end, how about taking a time out? Cannot keep giving away points.

 

[OlTimeHockey]

Let's get another rookie coach.

Maybe someone from Chowderville.

 

[19NYSports91]

Marc Crawford would be nice.

 

[Poliz24]

Can we hire Bill Parcells? I know he doesn't know a thing about hockey, but he knows LI, knows how to MOTIVATE and GET THE MOST OUT OF PLAYERS and since he would coach a hockey team, he can still be in the NFL Hall of Fame. ...

 

[OlTimeHockey]

Charles Wang, you're an exceptional human being. Try mountain climbing or skiing with a Kennedy or something. Private jets with a John Denver soundtrack. Anything, you soulless putz. Cappy should go as per this thread, but that doesn't fix the problem.

 

[YearlyLottery]

Can't wait till we fire Cappy








Anddddd then DOUG WEIGHT is the new coach. Can't wait.

 

[Space Herpe]

Some people say, "I'd give my left nut for this, that or the other thing."

I might be getting a vasectomy soon, so I might actually be in a position to give my left nut to get rid of Cappy.

 

[ScaredStreit]

Can't wait till we fire Cappy








Anddddd then DOUG WEIGHT is the new coach. Can't wait.

Weight is the reason why I don't want Cappy gone at the moment. Weight is NOT a legit NHL head coach (yet), and I think he needs more experience. Being an assistant and working on the PP is a big difference than being head coach.

 

[redbull]

Some people say, "I'd give my left nut for this, that or the other thing."

I might be getting a vasectomy soon, so I might actually be in a position to give my left nut to get rid of Cappy.

maybe a special GDT, with pictures of BOTH, a vote button underneath each photo?

that's classy!

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Islanders are 22nd in the league in win% when leading after two periods:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.ht...=winPctAfterLead2P&viewName=recordWhenLeading

I was very surprised to find that NJD and BOS are both worse than the Islanders in this regard.

Right. But the guy I quoted was pondering whether the Isles were the worst in the league at blowing leads. I was pointing out that they're not. They've blown 3 third period leads that resulted in losses (one an OT loss). 4 teams have blown more third period leads, and 4 other teams have blown as many as the Isles.

 

[A Pointed Stick]

Right. But the guy I quoted was pondering whether the Isles were the worst in the league at blowing leads. I was pointing out that they're not. They've blown 3 third period leads that resulted in losses (one an OT loss). 4 teams have blown more third period leads, and 4 other teams have blown as many as the Isles.

But in the end we still suck at holding leads no matter how worse another team may be.

They need to hire a competent coach with this being one of the reasons why. Sadly, Wang has decided to torture us with the worst rebuild in the history of sports.

 

[Seph]

Right. But the guy I quoted was pondering whether the Isles were the worst in the league at blowing leads. I was pointing out that they're not. They've blown 3 third period leads that resulted in losses (one an OT loss). 4 teams have blown more third period leads, and 4 other teams have blown as many as the Isles.

Oh, I wasn't trying to make any kind of point, and was not disagreeing with you or anything.

Your post just got me looking things up, and I posted what I found since it was interesting. Sorry if it came off antagonistic, definitely wasn't my intention.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Oh, I wasn't trying to make any kind of point, and was not disagreeing with you or anything.

Your post just got me looking things up, and I posted what I found since it was interesting. Sorry if it came off antagonistic, definitely wasn't my intention.

It didn't seem antagonistic at all. I just wasn't sure if my post was misinterpreted as suggesting the Isles were good at protecting third period leads, rather than just pointing out they're not actually (statistically speaking) the worst in the league at it.

I was also shocked to see how bad Boston is at closing out third period leads. Of all the teams in the league, they seemed like the kind of team that was close to unbeatable if they had a lead going into the third.

 

[Strummergas]

Right. But the guy I quoted was pondering whether the Isles were the worst in the league at blowing leads. I was pointing out that they're not. They've blown 3 third period leads that resulted in losses (one an OT loss). 4 teams have blown more third period leads, and 4 other teams have blown as many as the Isles.

While this is all true, the Isles have given up the most 3rd period goals of any team in the league. Before the 3rd last night, they had surrendered 42 3rd period goals. Now that number is up to 45.

So while they're not always blowing the game in the 3rd period, they're certainly at least allowing teams to get back into the game more than any other team in the league. Not surprising when you look at the last three 3rd periods in particular.

 

[kasper11]

To be fair, no lead is safe in the "new" NHL. Ever since the league made it a point to reduce the clutching and grabbing and put an end to refs "swallowing the whistle" in the 3rd period, there are a lot more opportunities for teams to come back. Would be interesting to see the stats on that but I'd bet that there are a lot more 3rd period comebacks in recent years than there were in the past.

Also, it is not uncommon for inexperienced teams to blow leads. Especially teams with little to no depth that rely heavily on a few key players. Fatigue becomes a factor.

I'm not so sure that any coach could do significantly better with this lineup. Coaches aren't judged by line combos or when they call a timeout. They are judged by results. And right now, I don't know how anyone can argue that the Isles are overachieving. 2/3 into the season, .500 record and 3 points out of a playoff spot? Hell, I would've jumped on that when the season started.

Coaches aren't judged by line combos or line matchups, but there are probably a few situations where he didn't take a timeout or put out the wrong line in the wrong situation that cost the Isles a game. And where you are 3 points out right now, those few situations could cost the Isles the playoffs.


And speaking of combinations, can someone explain why the Martin-Cizikas-McDonald line was broken up? It was probably our second best line, and one of the few that seems to have been constructed with actual thought to how the players would fit together.

 

[Isles Junkie]

i'm pretty much resigned to the fact that the day after the season ends, Snow will make some statement about how he feels that Capuano is the right man for the job & he will return next year. I think we're stuck with this guy (and snow) until Wang sells. Hopefully that is sooner rather than later.

 

[camper*]

Team is consistently flat to start games and periods, that is on the coach. And as far as his line matching, which leaves a lot to be desired, how many times after the other team scores does he send out the fourth line? This is also why they give up goals in bunches. If McDonald and Hamonic were tired and the alternative was Streit and Visnovsky paired together at the end, how about taking a time out? Cannot keep giving away points.

There not scoring on the fourth line there scoring on the 1st line and the new CC/auc/mcd smurf line with hickey/Vis on the ice.

 

[camper*]

Coaches aren't judged by line combos or line matchups, but there are probably a few situations where he didn't take a timeout or put out the wrong line in the wrong situation that cost the Isles a game. And where you are 3 points out right now, those few situations could cost the Isles the playoffs.


And speaking of combinations, can someone explain why the Martin-Cizikas-McDonald line was broken up? It was probably our second best line, and one of the few that seems to have been constructed with actual thought to how the players would fit together.

It was probably your best all around line....could play d..hit..take the game to the bad guys..problem is what they are paid....compared to big money lines that they ram down your throat

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Coaches aren't judged by line combos or line matchups, but there are probably a few situations where he didn't take a timeout or put out the wrong line in the wrong situation that cost the Isles a game. And where you are 3 points out right now, those few situations could cost the Isles the playoffs.


And speaking of combinations, can someone explain why the Martin-Cizikas-McDonald line was broken up? It was probably our second best line, and one of the few that seems to have been constructed with actual thought to how the players would fit together.

Perhaps. But that is speculation. He also could have put the right line out there or are taken a timeout in the right situation that resulted in wins.

My point is that it is futile to focus on this minutia. Judge the results...

 

[redbull]

My point is that it is futile to focus on this minutia. Judge the results...

well put. But there's no "success" in this organization at any level. Not the owner, not the GM, not the coach and certainly not the players (except JT has two WJC Gold Medals)

Amazing how this is allowed to continue without accountability. Utterly amazing.

 

[Giuseppe Franco]

Perhaps. But that is speculation. He also could have put the right line out there or are taken a timeout in the right situation that resulted in wins.

My point is that it is futile to focus on this minutia. Judge the results...

Exactly. There are many things about Capuano I second guess but at the end of the day it's all about results. If he gets these guys into the playoffs, then you have to credit him for that no matter how mind boggling some of his moves are. Anyways, I'm pretty much convinced that the real coaches of the team are Weight, Thompson and Snow.