When has anyone suggested that Floyd has the inside track? (I mean someone affiliated with the team. Media speculation doesn't count.)
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When has anyone suggested that Floyd has the inside track? (I mean someone affiliated with the team. Media speculation doesn't count.)
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That's ridiculous. If Sanchez doesn't make the starting rotation, this will reflect poorly on Shapiro IMO.
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If you didn't have that information would you still feel the same way? I'm sure he has alot of clients. Insinuating he's helping out one of his father's aging clients by naming him a 5th starter on a team seems like a large leap.
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I love that somehow we got reduced to spinning yarns about how there's some sort of shadowy conspiracy to put Floyd into the last starters role because of connections. And that's it. There's nothing to it but media speculation, but damn let's get our hackles up and ready so that the freak out can be primed to go off if it does end up happening (because speculation = fait accompli and because the results justify the conspiracy)
Look, I want Sanchez to make it into the rotation as much as anyone. He's earned the shot to prove himself. But let's not for one second pretend that Floyd has been out there going all 2015 Hutchison on the team this spring. He's been pretty good too. Nearly as good as Sanchez. If it comes down to Sanchez ending up in the pen and Floyd at #5, it won't be some sort of travesty against all sense and reason. It might be something most of us disagree with, but at the core of that on-the-surface disagreeable decision would be a kernel of (relatively) logical basis.
But instead let's all wring our hands as if there's some sort of machiavellian cartoon villainy going on in the president's office, bound and determined to see that his baseball illuminati connections are mollified and he gets to gleefully stick it to the Jays fans one more time while perched in his high-back office chair, clutching a goblet of brandy and twirling his snidely-whiplash-esque evil mustache in the most conniving possible way. Because surely its easier to believe in a complex web of ulterior motives and shady backroom shenanigans than it is to believe that sometimes people arrive at different conclusions than us, even if we believe that good sense and reason are on our side. Or the possibility that perhaps lineup assignments are the purview of he manager and not the front office (at least not directly)
Look, I want Sanchez to make it into the rotation as much as anyone. He's earned the shot to prove himself. But let's not for one second pretend that Floyd has been out there going all 2015 Hutchison on the team this spring. He's been pretty good too. Nearly as good as Sanchez. If it comes down to Sanchez ending up in the pen and Floyd at #5, it won't be some sort of travesty against all sense and reason. It might be something most of us disagree with, but at the core of that on-the-surface disagreeable decision would be a kernel of (relatively) logical basis.
But instead let's all wring our hands as if there's some sort of machiavellian cartoon villainy going on in the president's office, bound and determined to see that his baseball illuminati connections are mollified and he gets to gleefully stick it to the Jays fans one more time while perched in his high-back office chair, clutching a goblet of brandy and twirling his snidely-whiplash-esque evil mustache in the most conniving possible way. Because surely its easier to believe in a complex web of ulterior motives and shady backroom shenanigans than it is to believe that sometimes people arrive at different conclusions than us, even if we believe that good sense and reason are on our side. Or the possibility that perhaps lineup assignments are the purview of he manager and not the front office (at least not directly)
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They might feel that having Floyd in the rotation and Sanchez in the bullpen makes them a better team. But the thing is, I think that Sanchez can become our second best starter. Why not start him in the rotation, and if he struggles then put him in the bullpen. It's much easier to go from starter to a reliever than from a reliever to starter. If they start him in the bullpen, they pretty much have to commit to him being a reliever for the season. If they decide that they want to start him, they have to send him back down to AAA to get stretched out again. Nobody wants to do that. I don't know, it's a tough call.
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Exactly! Couldn't have said it better. I have the torches and pitchforks ready to go.
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As some of you know, I am one of Aarons biggest supporters. I believed that out of the Lansing 3, he was the untouchable one. I said well before Spring Training even started that Aaron should be the fifth starter. But if the team chooses Floyd, it is not because of some ridiculous conspiracy. It is because they feel that having Aaron in the back end of the pen is more valuable than having him start every fifth day. Which is a fair assessment given how well Floyd has pitched this spring. Would I agree with the decision? No, not necessarily. But will I understand the thought process behind it? Absolutely. I have believed that Aaron will become a solid #2 starter for quite some time, but I can understand if they keep him in the pen, even if I don't agree with it.
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Has anyone from the Blue Jays come out and said it's 5th spot or bullpen for Sanchez? If he loses out to Floyd for the 5th spot wouldn't he go to Buffalo as a starter to build up his innings?
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Seriously. xFIP below 3, 3.1 fWAR, K/9 of just under 10 and a BB/9 of under 2. His usage rates aren't out of whack either. The only strike you could hold against him is that he barely makes it past the 6th, but that's it.
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Just for ***** and giggles, I'll make my prediction for what the pitching staff will look like
SP: Marcus Stroman (R)
SP: Marco Estrada (R)
SP: J.A. Happ (L)
SP: R.A. Dickey (R)
SP: Aaron Sanchez (R)
LR: Gavin Floyd (R)
MR: Jesse Chavez (R)
MR: Pat Venditte (S)
MR: Randy Choate (L)
SU: Roberto Osuna (R)
SU: Brett Cecil (L)
CL: Drew Storen (R)
Although I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Floyd get the final rotation spot. I would also like to see Biagini be given a chance or for them to work out a minor trade for him with San Francisco.
SP: Marcus Stroman (R)
SP: Marco Estrada (R)
SP: J.A. Happ (L)
SP: R.A. Dickey (R)
SP: Aaron Sanchez (R)
LR: Gavin Floyd (R)
MR: Jesse Chavez (R)
MR: Pat Venditte (S)
MR: Randy Choate (L)
SU: Roberto Osuna (R)
SU: Brett Cecil (L)
CL: Drew Storen (R)
Although I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Floyd get the final rotation spot. I would also like to see Biagini be given a chance or for them to work out a minor trade for him with San Francisco.
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