Speculation: Its going to be a seller's market at the deadline for Top 4Dmen- Who will be available??

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

If the Flyers had any brains, they would move Sanheim. He would be a very good add to pretty much every team.

He has a full NMC but he has been excellent this year and worth his salary so far. If he decided to waive and they were to move him I don’t think it’d just be a cap dump I think they could get solid assets back. I don’t see him waiving though or them asking him too. Especially when they just resigned his best bud TK to an 8 year deal.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

He has a full NMC but he has been excellent this year and worth his salary so far. If he decided to waive and they were to move him I don’t think it’d just be a cap dump I think they could get solid assets back. I don’t see him waiving though or them asking him too. Especially when they just resigned his best bud TK to an 8 year deal.

It isnt a cap dump as he can help any team on thier 2nd pair. It would be a hockey trade.

Flyers probably don't want to move him as they are not the brightest group. If they did and Sanheim declined than that speaks volumes as to what type of player he is to not want to go to contender. To stay on this sinking ship would be mind boggling. Though he learned form the best.

 

[Sideline]

There's rumblings out of Vancouver that Allvin and JR are once again trying to get ahead of the other teams and have the cap and assets to make a splash.

Seravelli the hack named Pettersson and Anderson as the main guys they covet .
Soucy has been shockingly bad and him and Myers have no Chemistry.

I think Soucy turns it around but he's more of a #5 and Pettersson imo would be a great addition to the top four.
What kind package do you think Dubas is looking for?

Personally, I would want a 1st straight up. More if there is money with term coming back.

Based on the Guentzel trade, Dubas seems to prefer prospects that are farther along. Would not shock me if Pettersson went for a 2nd/3rd and a 19 or 20 year old prospect that was a 2nd/3rd rounder and trending well in development.

 

[leafsfan5]

*DISCLAIMER - not all of these guys are top 4 guys I'm strictly choosing teams who I believe could miss, and have guys available with less than 2 years on their deal.

My guess for defenders that will be on the market if these teams:

From Eastern Conference Teams:
Pittsburgh - Marcus Pettersson, Matt Grzelcyk
Columbus - Ivan Provorov, Eric Gudbranson?, Jack Johnson
Montreal - David Savard
Philadelphia - Eric Johnson

+ maybe

NYI - Mike Reilly
Detroit - Ben Chiarot, Jeff Petry, Olli Maatta
Ottawa - Travis Hamonic
Buffalo - Connor Clifton, Henri Jokiharju

From Western Conference Teams
Anaheim - Cam Fowler?? (unlikely), Brian Dumoulin, Urho Vaakanainen
Chicago - Connor Murphy??, Alec Martinez
Seattle - Jamie Oleksiak??, Josh Mahura, William Borgen
SJ - Cody Ceci, Jan Rutta,

+ maybe

Calgary - Rasmus Andersson?? (unlikely), Tyson Barrie
LA - Vladislav Gavrikov, Andreas Englund
Minnesota - Jacob Middleton, Zach Bogosian, John Merrill
St Louis - Nick Leddy, Ryan Suter
Utah - Ian Cole, Robert Bortuzzo

It appears OP is right, that is a horrendous crop of defenseman available

 

[TheNewEra]

Ottawa probably ends up in the market RD, would prefer a top 4 guy but if its a #4/5 dman but is good defensively its worth the consideration

hamonic should not be on the ice and for some reason he has the leg up on JBD who has been average in his role (which is huge)

getting someone with Kleven is probably something the sens target, especially as the sens prospect depth is blah. Doesnt even have to be someone with term since baring a surprise Yak probably makes the team next year

Of the names on the list that @Mitch nylander prepared I can see Murphy and Borgen being targeted

 

[miscs75]

pipe dream but would love for Dobson to be available.

Canucks pov id give up a kings ransom for him.

1st, 2nd, Willander,

That still wouldn’t even be enough for Dobson. Teams will easily beat that offer for a 70pt 23 year old defenseman who’s an RFA.

 

[Henkka]

The cap would currently work with the DET-NYR Trouba-trade if Chiarot goes another way.

It's a 3.25M difference in value (8.0M vs. 4.75M) and we have 3.46M of cap room.

Also interesting, that NYR has four righties, thanks to growth of Mancini (all Fox, Schneider, Trouba, Mancini are righties) and they are missing an experienced lefty. Also LD Lindgren is currently injured.

I think they would be interested in this:

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Schneider
Chiarot - Mancini
(LD Jones)

And Red Wings would be interested in this:

Edvinsson - Seider
Johansson - Trouba
Gustafsson - Petry/Holl
(Wallinder)

The handnesses would be perfect for both teams.

And Trouba caphit will absolutely need to go, if not this year, but at next summer for 100% sure, after huge Shesterkin contract extension (13 million?) and Lafreniere extension up to 7M+.

That another year for Trouba is extremely problematic for NYR and also Chiarot has that 2nd year left. But it could equal NYR and DET wishes. They could "swap the problems", because it would benefit both teams.

 

[Thechozen1]

Matheson and Savard from MTL.

I’d like Matheson with the Jets, but doubt there’s a fair deal to be made by both sides.

 

[jackjohnson]

Hockey pundits/experts are predicting that this year's trade deadline will be a sellers' market for those who are willing to unload a top 4 Dmen.

The theory is that the demand will be high but the supply will be short. Not only will there be plenty of playoff and contending teams looking to add top 4Dmen but it sounds like there are rebuilding teams like Mtl who also want to add.

This would be a great year for those selling a top 4 dmen and the return should be significant compared to other years.

Having said that, which big name top 4 Dmen will be available?

1. Pettersson
2. Andersson
3.Weegar
4. Pulock
5. Jones
6. Kesselring
7. Durzi
8. Fowler
9. Barron

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Get ‘em while their hot
Fowler
Vatrano
Gibson

 

[jackjohnson]

Rasmussen Anderson! I think he will be moved for a nice package of prospects or picks.

If Andersson is moved, so will Weegar who is 2 years older, more expensive and locked into a 6 year deal. I doubt weegar wants to waste 6 years of his prime on a rebuilding team.

 

[Czechboy]

Hoping my oilers target jiricek early and he is too 4 by playoffs

 

[biturbo19]

The cap would currently work with the DET-NYR Trouba-trade if Chiarot goes another way.

It's a 3.25M difference in value (8.0M vs. 4.75M) and we have 3.46M of cap room.

Also interesting, that NYR has four righties, thanks to growth of Mancini (all Fox, Schneider, Trouba, Mancini are righties) and they are missing an experienced lefty. Also LD Lindgren is currently injured.

I think they would be interested in this:

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Schneider
Chiarot - Mancini
(LD Jones)

And Red Wings would be interested in this:

Edvinsson - Seider
Johansson - Trouba
Gustafsson - Petry/Holl
(Wallinder)

The handnesses would be perfect for both teams.

And Trouba caphit will absolutely need to go, if not this year, but at next summer for 100% sure, after huge Shesterkin contract extension (13 million?) and Lafreniere extension up to 7M+.

That another year for Trouba is extremely problematic for NYR and also Chiarot has that 2nd year left. But it could equal NYR and DET wishes. They could "swap the problems", because it would benefit both teams.

It's not an insane idea. But that's an enormous cap number moving. And at the same time...Trouba is still massively better than Chiarot.

It's one of those things that does make a little sense, but i honestly can't see how the two parties could ultimately come to an agreement about it. Especially the Rangers, because why would they want to downgrade their defence in a championship run, unless they've got something else important lined up with that cap space they'd free up?

 

[The Real JT]

pipe dream but would love for Dobson to be available.

Canucks pov id give up a kings ransom for him.

1st, 2nd, Willander,

The return will need to be way better.

It’s hard to imagine the Isles moving on from Dobson but for a huge return I wouldn’t mind it as an Isles fan. He’s on the verge of getting a long-term high $AAV deal and frankly my main concern with him is that he is as soft as butter and that won’t change even as he matures.

Pelech and Pulock would both be available assuming that the Isles are not competitive near the TDL or alternatively if they fire Lou before then and the new GM is ready to move on and restock the cupboard.

 

[HuGort]

Montreal will move Savard for first pick

 

[OrangePMD]

The cap would currently work with the DET-NYR Trouba-trade if Chiarot goes another way.

It's a 3.25M difference in value (8.0M vs. 4.75M) and we have 3.46M of cap room.

Also interesting, that NYR has four righties, thanks to growth of Mancini (all Fox, Schneider, Trouba, Mancini are righties) and they are missing an experienced lefty. Also LD Lindgren is currently injured.

I think they would be interested in this:

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Schneider
Chiarot - Mancini
(LD Jones)

And Red Wings would be interested in this:

Edvinsson - Seider
Johansson - Trouba
Gustafsson - Petry/Holl
(Wallinder)

The handnesses would be perfect for both teams.

And Trouba caphit will absolutely need to go, if not this year, but at next summer for 100% sure, after huge Shesterkin contract extension (13 million?) and Lafreniere extension up to 7M+.

That another year for Trouba is extremely problematic for NYR and also Chiarot has that 2nd year left. But it could equal NYR and DET wishes. They could "swap the problems", because it would benefit both teams.

This makes sense "in a vacuum", but unlkely to happen during the season real life reasons.

Trouba probably has some kind of unwritten agreement not to be traded, because his wife it still not finished with her medical education, and thus unable/unwilling to move.

And for better or for worse, he the man in that locker room. It's his team and the vets love him. And there isn't currently a reason to rock that boat. Fans can say whatever, but these things matter to Real Hockey Men, who deal with real people, in real life.

Maybe next summer.

 

[vokiel]

Matheson, Savard on the Habs are available now, but we need warm D bodies back.

Savard isn't a top 4 d anymore however.

 

[dgibb10]

1. Pettersson
2. Andersson
3.Weegar
4. Pulock
5. Jones
6. Kesselring
7. Durzi
8. Fowler
9. Barron

W.

Pettersson is so slept on but he is better than Andersson

 

[Wpgpage]

It's still way to early for most of these predictions. That being said if the Jets keep playing like this and Specifically Pionk keeps up his stellar play then I think the Jets go very hard after a RHD. Ideally someone who can keep up with Morrissey and PK. That allows them to move Demelo down to P3 to pair with Heinola and gives them an offensive and defensive player on each pairing which is critical to thier offensive structure. Basically any prospect other than Yager and Lambert would be moveable along with all picks.

 

[madmike77]

Either Andersson or Weegar will likely be available from the Flames. I can't see them getting rid of both. It would leave them with zero veteran leadership on the back end. And they'd need to bring in a lot of salary to replace them.

My guess at this point would be Andersson. I can't see him wanting to stick around for the rebuild. Although, as others have noted, the Flames may wait to trade him in the offseason so they can get more for him with an extension.

 

[jackjohnson]

Either Andersson or Weegar will likely be available from the Flames. I can't see them getting rid of both. It would leave them with zero veteran leadership on the back end. And they'd need to bring in a lot of salary to replace them.

My guess at this point would be Andersson. I can't see him wanting to stick around for the rebuild. Although, as others have noted, the Flames may wait to trade him in the offseason so they can get more for him with an extension.

If both can get a haul, then why not? Then they could get Karlsson from Pens for multiple 1st and 2nd round picks and prospects. They will fill the cupboard in no time. Getting vets is easy when you have lots of cap space to play with especially teams that want to get rid of their expensive vets.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Depends how many teams are within striking distance of the playoffs

 

[Schemp]

I still like Provorpov on Utah if the BJs can't re-sign him.

 

[CannonFire1]

Hoping my oilers target jiricek early and he is too 4 by playoffs

For Bouchard? Ok.

Seriously though, what would Edmonton even be willing to offer? They don't appear to have much in the way of capital.