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Rumor: Isles going after Petterson; Dobson possibly involved

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impaaaaaact said:
I agree, I don't understand it and don't think it makes much sense for VAN. There's a bunch more that I didn't post but lots of folks are saying his name is still out there.

I would assume Nelson would go back until everyone is saying Lou is still trying to sign him. Maybe Pageau comes back but going from JT and Petterson to Chytil and Pageau would be maybe an all time downgrade.
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It would have to be Barzal or Horvat going back as well, but I just don't see how that works. Hasn't Barzal largely been a winger these days? Sorry, don't know a lot about the Isles. There was some talks about Rutherford wanting to reacquire Horvat, though I'm pretty sure that's just nonsense.

The only thing we'd be wanting to trade alongside Pettersson is futures too. So our 1st and Willander/Lekkerimaki. Moving Hronek doesn't really make sense. He and Hughes like playing together. So we'd be moving him to... pay Dobson more? Sure, he's a better play, but it doesn't really do anything.

And I don't see the Isles wanting to rebuild with futures. Even if Willander is possibly going to make the jump next season.
 
saintunspecified said:
What's the problem? Barzal plays wing. Although Horvat should be locked in at C, there's no reason any of the others must be locked in as C or W.
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I mean sure, and I guess you can always play a C on the wing (including EP40), but for VAN, why in the world would you deal EP40 to a team with 3 top 6-capable Cs and not insist on taking one of them back? Barzal makes the most sense, assuming he would be best used as a 1C, rather than on the wing like NYI is doing. Then maybe Nelson moves to the wing instead? Or EP40 plays LW?

LemonSauceD said:
has to be something more. Dobson as the main centerpiece considering we have Hronek and Willander coming soon makes no sense for us.
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This also! I wouldn't say VAN is great at RD, but certainly looking fine, so who is moving out to take Dobson in?
 
kvladimir said:
If anything is happening here, it must be something like EP40 + Hronek for Barzal + Dobson, VAN shuffling pieces around because of lingering locker room issues, NYI also looking to shake things up, avoid committing the $ to Dobson? Something like that? :dunno:
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.... it's not the craziest thing I've ever heard, especially if Lou wants to try and will them into the playoffs again (Barzal seems like he's out for the year). Barzal maybe waives to go back to BC. It's not crazy, I just don't see Lou moving Barzy
 
The Dobson thing doesn't make sense from Vancouver's POV. He would be limited to 2nd unit PP here, which takes away one of his biggest strengths. Barzal is also a winger these days, so that return may not make much sense either?

I don't see the two teams as a fit, but stranger things have happened.
 
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Cap wise, if it's Pageau, Engvall and Dobson for Pettersson it works.

thecupismine said:
The Dobson thing doesn't make sense from Vancouver's POV. He would be limited to 2nd unit PP here, which takes away one of his biggest strengths. I don't see the two teams as a fit, but stranger things have happened.
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He's not even that good at the PP
 
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RedHawkDown said:
Barzal + Dobson for Pettersson and Hronek seems fair value wise.
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And for NYI, part of the incentive might be that EP40 AND Hronek are locked up, while Dobson is a pending RFA who you have to committ $$$ to with the cap going up. VAN certainly seems to have the better cap structure to accommodate this, especially if EP40 is going the other way...

The value might even favour NYI, depending on how you view EP40, simply because of the need to extend Dobson
 
seafoam said:
Same, this seems like a bunch of people grasping at straws for clicks.
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It’s funny how much people said this about the Miller rumours too.

VancouverJagger said:
Errrr...........Is Dobson of that much more value than Hronek? I don't think so.......I tend to think EP has much more value then Barzal and Isles would have to add - maybe Nelson etc. would make things a bit more fair.......
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He has had a bit of a down year this year but so has EP. Last year he put up 70pts and is only 25. Id say value is way higher than Hronek.
 
@impaaaaaact

To FLA:
Pulock
2025 3rd

To NYI:
2026 1st (FLA)
2027 2nd
Gracyn Sawchyn
Evan Rodrigues


To NYI:
Elias Pettersson
Conor Garland

To VAN:
Mat Barzal
Noah Dobson



To NYI:
Erik Karlsson @ $6.5 million

To PIT:
2026 1st (FLA)
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Bourne Endeavor said:
It would have to be Barzal or Horvat going back as well, but I just don't see how that works. Hasn't Barzal largely been a winger these days? Sorry, don't know a lot about the Isles. There was some talks about Rutherford wanting to reacquire Horvat, though I'm pretty sure that's just nonsense.
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Yeah, Barzal has been playing wing. He gels best on the team with Horvat - Horvat is much better on face-offs (maybe leading league in FO%?) and it gives Barzy a little more freedom on the D to use his speed and disrupt plays. I think he's way more effective as a winger, basically playing a Marner role.

That being said, I think Barzal wants to play center. I wouldn't be shocked if he waived to go home and play C, and he has an almost a whole year to get re-acclimated. It's not crazy

Sticksandsun said:
@impaaaaaact

To FLA:
Pulock
2025 3rd

To NYI:
2026 1st (FLA)
2027 2nd
Gracyn Sawchyn
Evan Rodrigues


To NYI:
Elias Pettersson
Conor Garland

To VAN:
Mat Barzal
Noah Dobson



To NYI:
Erik Karlsson @ $6.5 million

To PIT:
2026 1st (FLA)
Scott Mayfield
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RedHawkDown said:
It’s funny how much people said this about the Miller rumours too.


He has had a bit of a down year this year but so has EP. Last year he put up 70pts and is only 25. Id say value is way higher than Hronek.
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Maybe it's a bit more fair than i think althou if that's the case here makes little to no sense for Van without a C coming back...........and they are just reshuffling the deck chairs here as Hronek as been very solid for us and no real reason to trade him. Something including Horvat actually makes a lot more sense here if Barzal isn't a C..........althou if we are trading EP I think there are better packages to be had elsewhere (I'd be calling Buffalo)
 
kvladimir said:
I mean sure, and I guess you can always play a C on the wing (including EP40), but for VAN, why in the world would you deal EP40 to a team with 3 top 6-capable Cs and not insist on taking one of them back? Barzal makes the most sense, assuming he would be best used as a 1C, rather than on the wing like NYI is doing. Then maybe Nelson moves to the wing instead? Or EP40 plays LW?
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That's the problem. It makes sense for NYI but only without dealing Barzal or Horvat also. But it makes sense for VAN only if one is included. That's why imo this isn't going anywhere.
 
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impaaaaaact said:
Yeah, Barzal has been playing wing. He gels best on the team with Horvat - Horvat is much better on face-offs (maybe leading league in FO%?) and it gives Barzy a little more freedom on the D to use his speed and disrupt plays. I think he's way more effective as a winger, basically playing a Marner role.

That being said, I think Barzal wants to play center. I wouldn't be shocked if he waived to go home and play C, and he has an almost a whole year to get re-acclimated. It's not crazy


All Your Swedes (Swedes)/ Are Belong To Us
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Just figured Karlsson would be a decent mentor/fellow countrymen addition with EP.
Islanders need some Swedish offense and skating injected into their core.
 
impaaaaaact said:
Yeah, Barzal has been playing wing. He gels best on the team with Horvat - Horvat is much better on face-offs (maybe leading league in FO%?) and it gives Barzy a little more freedom on the D to use his speed and disrupt plays. I think he's way more effective as a winger, basically playing a Marner role.

That being said, I think Barzal wants to play center. I wouldn't be shocked if he waived to go home and play C, and he has an almost a whole year to get re-acclimated. It's not crazy


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Isn’t Barzal on IR?
 
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saintunspecified said:
NYI fan here - how does this even work?

For VAN they've got nothing up the middle. I don't see what they'd have to deal for *both* Barzal, and Dobson. Also, I don't think NYI want to deal Barzal.

I don't see it.
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Me neither. Dobson would be wasted in Van behind Hughes. Vancouver absolutely has to have a high end C coming back if we move pettersen, not a stud D who wouldn’t even get top PP minutes.

The deal for Van would have to be something around Barzal only
 
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