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tjs*

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The only piece the Islanders have worth trading Kucherov for is Tavares. End of thread.
 

sebsisles

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Tampa Deff does not add a pick, stromes value is at an all time low right now. The first will be mid to late, im an isles fan and would do this in a heart beat. But there is no way Tampa takes this deal
 

Satan'sIsland81

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Honestly, I would trade three of the following pieces for Kucherov straight up: 2 of Lee, Nelson, Strome and Bailey + either Dal Colle, Ho Sang, 2017 1st round pick.
 

Butchered

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Eh. I'd rather have Kucherov. The value isn't totally bad, but NYI easily get the best player in the deal right now. Tampa is in win now (and win in the next 2-3-4 years) mode. It doesn't make a lot of sense to give up a very high end forward for that package.
 

JT Kreider

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If both teams seemingly can't get a deal done with their respective RFA's:

:bolts
Ryan Strome
Michael Dal Colle/Anthony Beauvillier
NYI 1st 2017

:isles
Nikita Kucherov
TBL 2nd 2017

Lightning save some money and get very good value. Islanders get a dynamite RW.

Kucherov+ for Tavares is closer in value.

Strome and Dal Colle does nothing for TB.
 

CodeE

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TB has enough forwards, if they can't come to terms with Kucherov they could easily get a young top-4 guy back instead of more wingers.
 

Hictor Vedman*

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TB has enough forwards, if they can't come to terms with Kucherov they could easily get a young top-4 guy back instead of more wingers.
But we will come to terms with him. And it'll be relatively cap friendly to boot. That's what's taking so long right now. He wants the money he deserves, and there's nothing wrong with that. But we're on a budget right now unless we can move someone else, so he'll realize he has to settle a little bit. Which is good because obviously Hedman and Stammer did, so he just has to follow their examples.
 

VoynovsParoleOfficer

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The only piece the Islanders have worth trading Kucherov for is Tavares. End of thread.

:facepalm: Kucherov is getting the OEL treatment suddenly, used to be underrated and now is just so overly rated its crazy, yes hes a fringe top 5 winger but don't say Tavares is in same category
 

CodeE

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But we will come to terms with him. And it'll be relatively cap friendly to boot. That's what's taking so long right now. He wants the money he deserves, and there's nothing wrong with that. But we're on a budget right now unless we can move someone else, so he'll realize he has to settle a little bit. Which is good because obviously Hedman and Stammer did, so he just has to follow their examples.

The Bishop shoe needs to drop. Unlike Trouba in Winnipeg (where I think the negotiations aren't going as "we'll come to terms with him with a cap friendly contract to boot" as Jets fans believe), Bishop seems destined to get traded and once he's gone, Tampa will easily be able to fit a Kucherov extension on the books.
 

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:facepalm: Kucherov is getting the OEL treatment suddenly, used to be underrated and now is just so overly rated its crazy, yes hes a fringe top 5 winger but don't say Tavares is in same category

Not really. Other than Tavares, what pieces do they have that really truly help the Lightning this upcoming season? Leddy and Hamonic but that is probably it.

They already have a (better) Strome in Drouin. And as a legit Cup contender, Dal Colle and a 1st really does nothing for them.

Kucherov is Tampa's best forward. So they have every right to ask for another teams best forward in a trade.
 

VoynovsParoleOfficer

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Not really. Other than Tavares, what pieces do they have that really truly help the Lightning this upcoming season? Leddy but that is it.

They already have a (better) Strome in Drouin. And as a legit Cup contender, Dal Colle and a 1st really does nothing for them.

Kucherov is their best forward. So they have every right to ask for another teams best forward in a trade.

im not saying the trade is good. I don't think islanders or much of anybody has a shot as kuchy but its just getting played out listening to the kucherov superstar threads. that's all I think when its all said and done he is third best forward on TBL
 

Butchered

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I'm not trying to stir the pot, but it's not Tampa fans making these offers/threads. If a majority of people feel a certain way about a player, it's probably the case.
 

These Are The Days

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Absolutely NOT. Yeah we Lightning fans get a little carried away with Kucherov sometimes but its because he has been the backbone of two straight trips to the ECF and a trip to the SCF a few years ago. He won't win you any regular season scoring titles but you can count on him to score a dozen goals en route to a championship.

Kucherov is absolutely off limits.
 

tjs*

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:facepalm: Kucherov is getting the OEL treatment suddenly, used to be underrated and now is just so overly rated its crazy, yes hes a fringe top 5 winger but don't say Tavares is in same category

Tavares is better but Kuch is closer to Tavares than anybody else on the Islanders is to Kuch. We aren't trading our best forward unless your best forward is coming back our way - it's really that simple.
 

tjs*

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im not saying the trade is good. I don't think islanders or much of anybody has a shot as kuchy but its just getting played out listening to the kucherov superstar threads. that's all I think when its all said and done he is third best forward on TBL

You just proved you have no idea what you're talking about. "Third best forward on TBL"?!? Kucherov is easily our best forward right now and the only one who I think has the potential to be better (but isn't there yet) is Drouin.
 

dechire

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im not saying the trade is good. I don't think islanders or much of anybody has a shot as kuchy but its just getting played out listening to the kucherov superstar threads. that's all I think when its all said and done he is third best forward on TBL

Uhh who are the 2 you think are better ?????? Stamkos isn't but I could understand why you'd think he was since you obviously don't watch the Lightning. But who the hell else do you think is better than Kucherov :laugh:
 

tjs*

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Also I'll be nice and not mention Tavares's disappearing act against the Lightning in the playoffs while Kucherov broke your backs two games in a row with clutch third-period goals.:D
 

Hictor Vedman*

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The Bishop shoe needs to drop. Unlike Trouba in Winnipeg (where I think the negotiations aren't going as "we'll come to terms with him with a cap friendly contract to boot" as Jets fans believe), Bishop seems destined to get traded and once he's gone, Tampa will easily be able to fit a Kucherov extension on the books.
I for one believe that Yzerman would sooner prefer to try to find a trading partner and get rid of Filppula and run Bishop and Vasy, and go with the hot hand for the year. By the trade deadline, a sure fire #1 should emerge. I personally don't feel confident enough with one playoff series to give Vasilevski the keys to this organization's future, but that's just my opinion.
 

VoynovsParoleOfficer

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Uhh who are the 2 you think are better ?????? Stamkos isn't but I could understand why you'd think he was since you obviously don't watch the Lightning. But who the hell else do you think is better than Kucherov :laugh:

stamkos isn't better than kucherov? ok then this alone proves my point that he is being intensely over rated...kuchy had 66 points last year stamkos has a 60 goal season in his past and I think Drouin WILL be better, I would rather Drouin than kuchy In 3 years.
 

CodeE

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I for one believe that Yzerman would sooner prefer to try to find a trading partner and get rid of Filppula and run Bishop and Vasy, and go with the hot hand for the year. By the trade deadline, a sure fire #1 should emerge. I personally don't feel confident enough with one playoff series to give Vasilevski the keys to this organization's future, but that's just my opinion.

The majority of NHL teams have a veteran with a high cap hit that they'd love to move without taking much salary back. 31 points last season coupled with two more years at $5M? Grabovski had a higher PPG and doesn't have a NMC, and nooobody wants Grabo.
 

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