Is this the year either of Buffalo, Detroit or Ottawa break through?

[Pavels Dog]

Yeah I'm actually surprised it is 40%

I was thinking 70-30 maybe 65-35.

I just don't see either one getting into a top 4 spot, and I think that's what It's going to take.

I think Toronto, Florida, Boston, Tampa, NYR, NJ, Carolina and one of Washington, NYI or Pittsburgh make it and I'm leaning towards Washington

I wouldn’t view NJ as a shoe-in, nor do I think Tampa & Boston are as safe from decline as some think. Carolina’s another team that if things go wrong could be in for a rough season. Those teams won’t all miss, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if 2 of them do.

Very easy to fall into the trap of just copy/pasting the same playoff teams + whatever team’s popular at the moment (NJ) and thinking that’s going to be reality.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

an infinite number of years? You're acting like Ottawa has never been good.

I think you're wrong. I don't even think your mighty (choking) Maple Leafs are immune to missing next season. We shall see. Ottawa is getting a lot closer in your rear view mirror whether you like to admit it or not.

I'ce said several times I think the Sens got better with the Perron and Ullmark additions but I don't think It's enough to get into the top 4 this season.