Is there any team that would benefit from a Quantity/Quality trade?

Sangoku Galchenyuk

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I know those trade proposals always gets a ton of criticism. So instead of proposing an offer I'm just gonna throw something like :

Is there any team that would actually trade one of their stars for a package like 3x 1st, Prospect A, Prospect B + Roster player?

3x 1st, Sergachev, Sherback, Plekanec/Beaulieu? What can you get with that kind of offer?

Feel free to adjust it with your own team, You know it better than I do.

I know it's not very realistic. But so what we're on hfboards after all.
 

Siludin

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These types of trades typically happen out of necessity (quality player asks for trade) and the ransom is almost always dependant on whether the quality player has a no-trade clause.
 

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Perhaps Chicago and Seabrook? Trade him for a bunch of ELC/pre-UFA players to try and create flexibility and build depth?
 

Rorschach

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Teams making the U turn rebuild like futures quantity for their quality. Who's in that situation?

Also who has a key pending UFA?
Hanzal and Shattenkirk's teams might be the ones.
 

HawkeyTalkMan

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I know those trade proposals always gets a ton of criticism. So instead of proposing an offer I'm just gonna throw something like :

Is there any team that would actually trade one of their stars for a package like 3x 1st, Prospect A, Prospect B + Roster player?

3x 1st, Sergachev, Sherback, Plekanec/Beaulieu? What can you get with that kind of offer?

Feel free to adjust it with your own team, You know it better than I do.

I know it's not very realistic. But so what we're on hfboards after all.

I feel this screams Vancouver. They badly need to restock the system and not just let the Sedins fade out. They owe them a shot at a cup and also should consider exploring trading them for a big haul
 

CHaracter79

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Could have been a possibility if the habs were able to trade PK to edm for Draisaitl, Klefbom and the 4OA

would have had puuljarvi and sergachev fromt he draft and Klefbom and Draisaitl for PK

thats forward depth in a hurry.. but the D would have been much weaker
 

CHaracter79

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I feel this screams Vancouver. They badly need to restock the system and not just let the Sedins fade out. They owe them a shot at a cup and also should consider exploring trading them for a big haul


the Sedins would bring you nothign close to 3 firsts, 2 former first picks and roster player


not even in the same ballpark to what they would return
 

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How do people think the ROR trade has worked out so far?

Grigs was good last season as a 3rd liner (not sure on this season)
Zadorov is playing top pair with Johnson
Not sure how Compher is doing

And not bothering to count what McGinn got back.

Not ideal still for a player of O'Reilly's caliber, but still not a bad trade imo.
 

Rorschach

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the Sedins would bring you nothign close to 3 firsts, 2 former first picks and roster player


not even in the same ballpark to what they would return

Do the Sedins, with their NTC/NMCs even have a positive value? No contender can overpay that much salary and they won't approve unless it makes sense to them going to a winning situation.
 

HawkeyTalkMan

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the Sedins would bring you nothign close to 3 firsts, 2 former first picks and roster player


not even in the same ballpark to what they would return

The original ask was more quantity for quality. I didnt think we needed to throw out specific players to return that specific return, thats just too niche to find a realistic opportunity and willingness from either side

I think the sedins as a pair could return a current roster player who is solid, a 1st, a top prospect, and a lower pick
 

HawkeyTalkMan

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Do the Sedins, with their NTC/NMCs even have a positive value? No contender can overpay that much salary and they won't approve unless it makes sense to them going to a winning situation.

If VAN is willing to eat half of both their deals for a big return, I think the Sedins would just return a massive haul. Two top line players with unreal chemistry at 50% would probably launch a bubble team into serious contender status IMO, provided they dont go play for Torts :laugh:
 

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If VAN is willing to eat half of both their deals for a big return, I think the Sedins would just return a massive haul. Two top line players with unreal chemistry at 50% would probably launch a bubble team into serious contender status IMO, provided they dont go play for Torts :laugh:

Yes. But that's a very big if. Given Vancouver's history, I would say no. If Vancouver owners were the kind to eat huge retention, Schneider would be their goalie still.


And to me they are second line players, not first line on a contender. There would be some return but not massive. Considering the massive amount of retention needed, it doesn't add up.
 

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How do people think the ROR trade has worked out so far?

It sucks because we lost the best player currently from the deal. But he wasn't staying regardless so the pieces we got really helped with our depth and in a year or two we will really start seeing the full effect of the trade once Compher makes the big club. Grigo hasn't had a great start but he is a solid piece for us.

Greer was an indirect result of the draft pick we recieved from them and has had a crazy fast development and produced his first career NHL point last night for us and Zadorov is looking very good.

Think most avs fans actually like the trade .
 

HawkeyTalkMan

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Yes. But that's a very big if. Given Vancouver's history, I would say no. If Vancouver owners were the kind to eat huge retention, Schneider would be their goalie still.

Valid point.

You just wonder when VAN has the epiphany that its time to tear it down and eat some real world dollars today to build for future success
 

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Trade a bunch of their non big 3 assets for a top 4 dman.
 

Ricky Bobby

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I know those trade proposals always gets a ton of criticism. So instead of proposing an offer I'm just gonna throw something like :

Is there any team that would actually trade one of their stars for a package like 3x 1st, Prospect A, Prospect B + Roster player?

3x 1st, Sergachev, Sherback, Plekanec/Beaulieu? What can you get with that kind of offer?

Feel free to adjust it with your own team, You know it better than I do.

I know it's not very realistic. But so what we're on hfboards after all.

Those types of trades usually happen in the off-season when a team or player decides to go in another direction or a team has cap issues.

Witness Kessel or Nash trade or Chicago trying to stay under the cap.
 

Charlie Conway

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That rick nash trade worked out pretty good for columbus. (as in they got good players back)

That's true, but I think, at the time, it looked worse and was a matter of settling.

Dubi and Anisimov were pretty good third liners at the time, though they've both proved to be able to more than that with the right players. Erixon didn't turn into anything, though he had some NHL upside at the time. The first looked good in Rychel.

Anisimov got moved in a big package for a main return of Saad, and Kerby Rychel, is now with Toronto after getting moved for Scott Harrington.
 

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