Is there any doubt that Mike Babcock is the best coach in the league?

Retire91

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When your biggest complaint is from "two seasons ago" maybe its time you move on :shakehead

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Taze em

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In my opinion he's definitely the most overrated coach in the NHL and I still have him in the top 3.

Q and Suter have done better coaching jobs in the 2010s than he has. Don't really think it's very debatable either.
 

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In my opinion he's definitely the most overrated coach in the NHL and I still have him in the top 3.

Q and Suter have done better coaching jobs in the 2010s than he has. Don't really think it's very debatable either.

Because they have better teams to coach.
 

SirloinUB

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So, what you are saying here is the question should be is, he the best coach this week??

Isn't that the MO of HF anyway?


But to provide a more sincere answer, I don't see the point in bringing that line up. For starters 1 line from two years ago is not enough to evaluate a coach. A coach has many responsibilities. Looking at a fraction of those responsibilities won't tell you much about a Coach's overall ability.

Furthermore Cleary will (likely) be a healthy scratch the rest of the season and Abdelkader is having a career year. I Just don't see what point there is in bringing up a line that played together over 2 years ago. It's an inaccurate microcosm if you ask me.
 

obey86

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Isn't that the MO of HF anyway?


But to provide a more sincere answer, I don't see the point in bringing that line up. For starters 1 line from two years ago is not enough to evaluate a coach. A coach has many responsibilities. Looking at a fraction of those responsibilities won't tell you much about a Coach's overall ability.

Furthermore Cleary will (likely) be a healthy scratch the rest of the season and Abdelkader is having a career year. I Just don't see what point there is in bringing up a line that played together over 2 years ago. It's an inaccurate microcosm if you ask me.

How about last season then? Dan Cleary was on the #1 PP for a long time and literally had 0 PP points.
 
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Its hard to quantify who is the best coach in the league. I personally think Babcock is somewhere around the top five but he is ridiculously overrated by the media. A lot of it depends on how the coach's schemes/way of coaching fit with a certain roster (see Laviollete in Nashville). There are a lot of times where I question what Babcock is thinking in terms of system with the Wings, but I'm not complaining right now with our record.
 

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I don't think so. He's had a lot given to him by the Detroit brain trust and draft/development system. And Nick Lidstrom.
 

ArGarBarGar

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With the teams he's had he should have more than one Cup.

He's the only coach post-lockout to reach the cup finals two years in a row. And the year before that he made the conference finals.

Talent-wise the team has been sketchy since 2009. Prior to that with contending teams he did pretty damn well.
 

LarKing

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No. His line-up decisions are pretty damn questionable. He puts people in the doghouse and it hurts this team pretty clearly at times. Then he loves certain players for no reason whatsoever and it hurts as well.
 

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No doubt. If you're talking about results then I guess Sutter and Quenneville are the best coaches right now but they're not. Babcock getting his team into the playoffs with a team that is worse than Chicago and LA, he was the coach of Canada at Sochi over both those guys and every other Canadian coach in the NHL.

He's missed the playoffs once in his coaching tenure (11 years), he's turned Flippula, Kronwall, Hudler, Helm, Abdelkader, Ericsson, Tatar, Nyquist, Smith, Sheahan, DeKeyser, Jurco into NHLers. He has a great system and a great way of developing players.
 

Taze em

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No doubt. If you're talking about results then I guess Sutter and Quenneville are the best coaches right now but they're not. Babcock getting his team into the playoffs with a team that is worse than Chicago and LA, he was the coach of Canada at Sochi over both those guys and every other Canadian coach in the NHL.

He's missed the playoffs once in his coaching tenure (11 years), he's turned Flippula, Kronwall, Hudler, Helm, Abdelkader, Ericsson, Tatar, Nyquist, Smith, Sheahan, DeKeyser, Jurco into NHLers. He has a great system and a great way of developing players.

Quenneville has missed the playoffs once in his coaching tenure (18 years). He has a great system and a great way of developing players (Shaw, Saad, Kruger, Hjalmarsson, Leddy, Toews, Kane).

He leads all active coaches in Wins (regular season and playoff).
 

Mr Jiggyfly

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I believe he has only won one cup while Q and Sutter have two each. He hasn't coached the Wings to a conference final since, 09, right?

Not sure how he can be labeled as the best in the league with those two around.
 

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He's the only coach post-lockout to reach the cup finals two years in a row. And the year before that he made the conference finals.

Talent-wise the team has been sketchy since 2009. Prior to that with contending teams he did pretty damn well.




If you credit him for reaching the finals two years in a row, then you blame him for blowing the lead in'09, etc., etc., etc.

I could have coached those two Olympic Gold teams to victory.

If he would have played veteran Ian white instead of Brendan Smith Wings would have closed out Chicago instead of choking up one thee biggest comeback series losses in Wings history.

Dave Lewis would have at least won '08 Cup if he hadn't been let go, probably '09, too.

Babcock is a very good coach, but very much overrated.
 
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FishMonger

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Lots of doubt.

Sincerely,

Kings Homers.



But seriously, if you think the Kings had a great team before Sutter got in, look at their record prior to him getting there.

The Kings were literally a 60-1 bet in Vegas (I think it even got to 75-1) to win the Cup in December, 2011. Then here comes Sutter. Back to back (Full season) Cup Champs, and a WCF appearance in that other season that doesn't even really count :sarcasm:
I knew I should have made that drive up the 15...
 

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