Is There a Worse Announcer Than Cassie Campbell?

[CalgarySnow]

Tone of voice is one of the physical characteristics that can differentiate men from women.

Tone of voice is one of the things that can unfairly limit the careers of women lawyers as well as broadcasters.

I've done this a long time. I've seen judges, other lawyers and clients -- even women judges, women lawyers and women clients unfairly prefer male lawyers with deep sonorous voices over women lawyers with high -- "shrill" or "screechy" voices.

I was in court a very long time ago when a presiding judge in open court told a woman lawyer my age she should be teaching school, not practicing law.

Words hurt, change lives and limit careers.

Sexist words and attitudes are not right and they should be challenged -- by everyone.

I agree with you but we’re all allowed to have preferred commentators and CPC is not one of my preferred nor is a myriad of male commentators

 

[CalgarySnow]

You're just being silly.

Is there any that suggests he doesn't like the male broadcaster because of his male characteristics? If not, its not sexist.

Same deal with Cassie Campbell. If it's something to do with her gender -- which could include the tone of her voice -- that would be sexist. If not, its not sexist.

That is what I’m trying to say, it’s not because of her being female I just don’t like the sound of her voice, like I don’t like the sound of some male commentators’ voices

 

[Ciao]

I agree with you but we’re all allowed to have preferred commentators and CPC is not one of my preferred nor is a myriad of male commentators

No problem.

I dont take issue with not liking her broadcasting. I'm offended when that dislike is accompanied by openly sexist words and attitudes that had mainly gone unchallenged.

 

[Sheppy]

You're just being silly.

Is there anything that suggests he doesn't like the male broadcaster because of his male characteristics? If not, its not sexist.

Same deal with Cassie Campbell. If it's something to do with her gender -- which could include the tone of her voice -- that would be sexist. If not, its not sexist.

So do you think I’m a sexist because I said she’s “verbal hemorrhoids” - If so, do you think you’ve dug a tad far into that to grasp your hands on something that’s truly not there? I think her take on the game is often times bad, and I feel she doesn’t bring any excitement. Hemorrhoids are bad, and not exciting, for men or women.

I feel you really, really reached far to come to that conclusion.

 

[featherhawk]

No problem.

I dont take issue with not liking her broadcasting. I'm offended when that dislike is accompanied by openly sexist words and attitudes that had mainly gone unchallenged.

what about the fact that she speaks and makes little if any sense often?

are we supposed to guess what she is trying to say?

 

[Ciao]

She is not qualified to be a broadcaster, she has never taken any post secondary education for same...

Peter Mansbridge was a 20 y.o. high-school dropout announcing flights at an airport in Northern Manitoba when, without any secondary or post--secondary credentials he was hired as a broadcaster by the CBC.

I guess they thought he was qualified because he had talent. Sort of like Cassie Cambell.

He's a man.

My point is that people can be qualified as a broadcaster despite a lack of academic training in broadcasting.

The examples are endless.

But that's only the secondary point. My primary point is that she was not hired because she is a woman, as so many here have unfairly suggested.

but he was not qualified... regardless of what preferred pronouns "they" want to use...

what's your point?

 

[Ciao]

what about the fact that she speaks and makes little if any sense often?

are we supposed to guess what she is trying to say?

I couldn't care less about that.

I don't have an opinion as to whether she's a good or bad broadcaster, and if I did my opinion would be irrelevant to the discussion on sexism.

I'm concerned that so many on this forum feel free to spew sexist comments with so few other posters bothering to challenge them.

 

[Ciao]

I dislike Ken Daneyko and his deep caveman-like voice. I guess that's also sexist, right SJW's?

I think Ken Daneyko is a man working in a male-dominated profession. The comparison is not direct or appropriate.

If you were expecting a higher pitched female voice and were displeased by a lower pitched male voice, then that would be sexist.

If you said or implied that Ken Daneyko were only hired because he is a man, in a female dominated profession, that would be sexist.

If you said that men do not belong in the broadcast booth, or that men should not be broadcasting at all, that too would be sexist.

If you have no problem with men broadcasting hockey and generally enjoy male voices but dislike Ken Daneyko's deep voice, that is not at all sexist.

To each his own.

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

I can honestly say I’d rather listen to Cassie than Elliot Friedman. The guy opens his mouth and just dishes out the crap. But yeah Cassie could use some work. She makes lots of errors and needs to be more prepared. I think she’s a great Canadian icon and deserves a lot of admiration for what she has accomplished in her career. She’s definitely not the worst. I listen to lots of games on satellite radio and some of those American commentators and pbp guys have no clue when it comes to hockey.

 

[Steve776]

Good thing the human incarnation of the city of Toronto is here to translate the subtext of everyone's posts or I wouldn't even know everybody here hates women.

 

[featherhawk]

My point is that people can be qualified as a broadcaster despite a lack of academic training in broadcasting.

The examples are endless.

But that's only the secondary point. My primary point is that she was not hired because she is a woman, as so many here have unfairly suggested.

yes however when you are both not qualified with academic broadcasting and you absolutely suck at your job cause you can't communicate effectively and you confuse people with the words your trying to spit out on national television you should be fired from your job and be replaced by someone that can communicate regardless of what Gender they are or identify with at any given time in their life...

 

[featherhawk]

My point is that people can be qualified as a broadcaster despite a lack of academic training in broadcasting.

The examples are endless.

But that's only the secondary point. My primary point is that she was not hired because she is a woman, as so many here have unfairly suggested.

do tell, why was she hired then

 

[Ciao]

do tell, why was she hired then

Question asked and answered. See above.

 

[featherhawk]

Question asked and answered. See above.

right, you seem to suggest that she is qualified to be a Broadcaster

but alas she is not.

she has a sociology degree from Guelph, that is it...

just because she played hockey at a national level for Canada does not maker her qualified to be a broadcaster...

according to you not only is she qualified to be a broadcaster in the NHL, she would be qualified to be a Coach in the NHL, a President of Hockey Operations in the NHL, a General Manager in the NHL, a stick boy in the NHL, an equipment manager in the NHL, a concussion spotter in the NHL etc etc...

fact of the matter is the only thing that she is qualified for in the NHL is to be a fan...

Nothing more

 

[zar]

I can honestly say I’d rather listen to Cassie than Elliot Friedman. The guy opens his mouth and just dishes out the crap. But yeah Cassie could use some work. She makes lots of errors and needs to be more prepared. I think she’s a great Canadian icon and deserves a lot of admiration for what she has accomplished in her career. She’s definitely not the worst. I listen to lots of games on satellite radio and some of those American commentators and pbp guys have no clue when it comes to hockey.

But you are from Calgary.

I guarantee you that 90% of people outside of Calgary or are not Flames fans feel that when Cassie Campbell's lips are moving our ears are bleeding.

I also disagree with @The 6ix in that she has not was not hired, or at the very least held her position, due her gender and the diversity movement. I do believe there are good female hockey analysts but she is not one of them.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Campbell is sub-par, but only has a job because she's a woman. The countless men who are sub-par on Sportsnet have their jobs because they're actually secretly awesome.

This, among other things, is where the discussion starts to look pretty sexist. It's just assumed that mediocre women are hired due to tokenism, and that there couldn't possibly be talented and qualified women to fill the role, while the roster of mediocre men are ignored. Could it be that Rogers just has bad hiring standards and practices for their NHL broadcasts?

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Jennifer Botterill says 'hold my wine cooler'

 

[PaulD]

Campbell is sub-par, but only has a job because she's a woman. The countless men who are sub-par on Sportsnet have their jobs because they're actually secretly awesome.

This, among other things, is where the discussion starts to look pretty sexist. It's just assumed that mediocre women are hired due to tokenism, and that there couldn't possibly be talented and qualified women to fill the role, while the roster of mediocre men are ignored. Could it be that Rogers just has bad hiring standards and practices for their NHL broadcasts?

It must be, how else would Craig Simpson and Cassie Campbell be doing games. They are both awful.

 

[Channelcat]

I'll just go on the record saying I like Cassie.....even if she's not a world class broadcaster.

 

[North Cole]

right, you seem to suggest that she is qualified to be a Broadcaster

but alas she is not.

she has a sociology degree from Guelph, that is it...

just because she played hockey at a national level for Canada does not maker her qualified to be a broadcaster...

according to you not only is she qualified to be a broadcaster in the NHL, she would be qualified to be a Coach in the NHL, a President of Hockey Operations in the NHL, a General Manager in the NHL, a stick boy in the NHL, an equipment manager in the NHL, a concussion spotter in the NHL etc etc...

fact of the matter is the only thing that she is qualified for in the NHL is to be a fan...

Nothing more

Honestly I don't think she was hired because of being a woman, but I do think she sucks at her jobs. I think that whole CGY broadcast sucks at their job, I was watching parts of the Ottawa game and there is just so much dead air. At the end rather than even mention what was happening on the ice, they just stammered and laughed about Hrudey's button for the final 3 minutes. I think they're fairly unprofessional which is probably fine if it's radio or something, but not nationally broadcast.

Although she was not in my opinion hired because her gender, she was absolutely not hired due to competence like some are saying. She was hired because she is a hockey "icon" and has "connections" to the NHL through her husband. Rather have Wickenheiser tbh, but she works for the Leafs in a prominent role. Cassie is just another in a long line of nepotism hires, no different than the OBC in Edmonton, or most players/execs in any sport that end up in the booth like Bieksa, Burke, etc. There's not much of a gender issue here, it's just more nepotism which the NHL and broadcasters are famous for. Her competency should be questioned, just like most of the guys that come out of the sport at end up in front of a camera.

No different than people questioning Milbury 24/7.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

She's absolutely terrible.

 

[Sheppy]

I have seven brothers-in-law in Cape Breton, and none of them talk like that.

I don’t care what you have, honestly. Cape Breton isn’t Newfoundland. You’ve tried painting me with a certain brush and it’s completely, 100% untrue.

When I said “Verbal Hemorrhoids” you assumed I was taking about her voice. I wasn’t, while yes, it’s monotone. I was talking about several factors. Her overall take on what’s happening, and keys to the game, for example.

 

[habdynasty]

Gord Miller , Kermit voice.

 

[Go Wings]

To be fair the majority of on air people working for sportsnet are terrible. I think Craig Simpson is just as bad as Campbell.

 

[RogerRoger]

Very few announcers have any actual insight and it's generally 90% dribble and inane clichés. She's no different. I switched to audiobooks a while back and it's a much better use of my time.