Value of: Is there a trade market for Torey Krug?

[TK 421]

That's fine if some of our fellow Blues fans disagree with the idea that the team needs a top pair LD but don't go ascribing motive to us.

For one we have expressed very clearly from the get go that we don't like how the current defense is constructed. So you like the mix on defense, super duper. We don't. I for one was thrilled that Petro got to sign his big contract even if it wasn't here and I didn't bad mouth Doug Armstrong either because I hold him in very high regard.

Should I go ascribing motive to you people? Maybe suggest that you're shameless homers who lick Doug Armstrong's shoes? See two can play that game but I won't suggest that because it's petty and unproductive in these discussions.

So please stop pretending that people who want a LD upgrade just hate Krug because he's not Petro. We don't hate Krug, we just think we need a LD upgrade and posters are trying to find creative scenarios to accomplish that. That's it...no reason to lay your petty little extra shots and ascribed motives on our doorsteps. But since you did.. f*** you too.

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

That's fine if some of our fellow Blues fans disagree with the idea that the team needs a top pair LD but don't go ascribing motive to us.

For one we have expressed very clearly from the get go that we don't like how the current defense is constructed. So you like the mix on defense, super duper. We don't. I for one was thrilled that Petro got to sign his big contract even if it wasn't here and I didn't bad mouth Doug Armstrong either because I hold him in very high regard.

Should I go ascribing motive to you people? Maybe suggest that you're shameless homers who lick Doug Armstrong's shoes? See two can play that game but I won't suggest that because it's petty and unproductive in these discussions.

So please stop pretending that people who want a LD upgrade just hate Krug because he's not Petro. We don't hate Krug, we just think we need a LD upgrade and posters are trying to find creative scenarios to accomplish that. That's it...no reason to lay your petty little extra shots and ascribed motives on our doorsteps. But since you did.. f*** you too.

It’s been mentioned but it looks awful to consider trading a player before he even plays a full season. So from that I can’t see trading him or even entertaining the thought of trading him to be realistic.

 

[stl76]

We aren't trading him, he's performed exactly to expectations, and we absolutely won't consider a move while Perunovich hasn't played and performed to a top 4 level in the NHL.

Exactly this.

Also, I get this is all hypothetical fun, but everyone seems to be ignoring one crucial fact here...KRUG HAS A FULL NTC THRU THE 24/25 SEASON

 

[PAZ]

Exactly this.

Also, I get this is all hypothetical fun, but everyone seems to be ignoring one crucial fact here...KRUG HAS A FULL NTC THRU THE 24/25 SEASON

I'm quite surprised how liberally Armstrong has given out full NTC, or close to full to Krug, Scandella, and Faulk.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Sens offer Erik Brannstrom.

Krug sure as heck isn't waiving for Ottawa, he actually wants to make the playoffs which Ottawa wont.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

As a Habs fan, I'd trade for Krug in a heartbeat if I could get rid of Gallagher's contract.

I’d love Gally in Vancouver? Pearson of interest?

 

[Reality Czech]

That's fine if some of our fellow Blues fans disagree with the idea that the team needs a top pair LD but don't go ascribing motive to us.

For one we have expressed very clearly from the get go that we don't like how the current defense is constructed. So you like the mix on defense, super duper. We don't. I for one was thrilled that Petro got to sign his big contract even if it wasn't here and I didn't bad mouth Doug Armstrong either because I hold him in very high regard.

Should I go ascribing motive to you people? Maybe suggest that you're shameless homers who lick Doug Armstrong's shoes? See two can play that game but I won't suggest that because it's petty and unproductive in these discussions.

So please stop pretending that people who want a LD upgrade just hate Krug because he's not Petro. We don't hate Krug, we just think we need a LD upgrade and posters are trying to find creative scenarios to accomplish that. That's it...no reason to lay your petty little extra shots and ascribed motives on our doorsteps. But since you did.. f*** you too.

I think you're taking this a bit too seriously, champ. F you, really?

But that's the kind of post I'd expect from a habitual Krug hater.

 

[westc2]

The Krug signing was the nail in the coffin for Pietrangelo leaving because it made it impossible for the Blues to do so. Many fans are still bitter about it. I haven't been very impressed with Krug thus far either. He's a decent 2nd pairing guy I guess. He's a bit overpaid in my opinion though.

But to be fair, Faulk was in a similar situation and now he's like a completely different player. Faulk has been awesome the past couple seasons. So maybe Krug will have the same transformation for the Blues as the season progresses. That being said, his NMC aside, it's too early to talk about trading him when there's really no reason for it at the moment.

 

[Louie the Blue]

I honestly think the Krug signing was a rare knee-jerk reaction by Doug Armstrong. I didn't like the signing then, and I don't like it now, but that's because he is an undersized PMD that needs sheltering, and because I really don't think the contract will age well, and he has an NTC. It has nothing to do with Pietrangelo's departure. Having said that, the Blues need his offensive contributions, and as others have stated, it is way too early to pencil in Perunovich as Krug's replacement. IF, Perunovich establishes himself as well as projected, I could see Krug being dealt in a couple of seasons. He will not likely be dealt this season or next.

Krug was signed to help replace what Pietrangelo contributed offensively. He’s not meant to be a direct replacement for him(Parayko is probably the closest player who can do that overall). Krug was the next best defenseman he could acquire in FA.

If he didn’t sign Krug, the D would be worse off. Dunn hasn’t shown he’s as good Krug and Perunovich hasn’t shown anything on the NHL level yet.

In 2-3 years this might be a different discussion, but as of now or last year, I view the signing as 100% necessary.

I'm quite surprised how liberally Armstrong has given out full NTC, or close to full to Krug, Scandella, and Faulk.

That’s likely because Armstrong doesn’t do NMCs.

 

[sh724]

The Krug signing was the nail in the coffin for Pietrangelo leaving because it made it impossible for the Blues to do so. Many fans are still bitter about it. I haven't been very impressed with Krug thus far either. He's a decent 2nd pairing guy I guess. He's a bit overpaid in my opinion though.

But to be fair, Faulk was in a similar situation and now he's like a completely different player. Faulk has been awesome the past couple seasons. So maybe Krug will have the same transformation for the Blues as the season progresses. That being said, his NMC aside, it's too early to talk about trading him when there's really no reason for it at the moment.

The Krug signing was because DA knew Petro wasnt coming back. If DA was confident he could sign Petro he would never have reached out to Krug.

He doesnt have a NMC he has a NTC for a portion of the contract. The Blues do not give out NMCs, that was one of the major contention points with Petro.

 

[Stealth JD]

To the Blues fans saying "we aren't trading Krug":
STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD...this isn't for you. It's that simple.

I'm aware of the unlikelihood of the Blues trading a guy so soon after signing him. I'm simply looking for opinions from other teams as to what he'd be worth to their club, if anything.

 

[rumrokh]

The Krug signing was the nail in the coffin for Pietrangelo leaving because it made it impossible for the Blues to do so.

Pietrangelo was actually in Vegas, getting his knob polished several hours after free agency opened when they signed Krug. Dude was gone.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

Pietrangelo was actually in Vegas, getting his knob polished several hours after free agency opened when they signed Krug. Dude was gone.

Taking our infighting to the main boards is...fun times. For whatever it's worth, I always pull for the guy who is currently wearing our sweater and who chose to wear our sweater. Everything else is ancient history and Monday Morning QBing that goes nowhere.

Plus, I think the Blues haven't had a team this connected/happy to play with each other than the Gloria period. Krug seems like a solid part of that (his banter with Perron on Twitter being an example), and Faulk is a huge part of that - witness Schenn going to battle with Kadri within the first minute of the season.

 

[Burke the Legend]

I'm quite surprised how liberally Armstrong has given out full NTC, or close to full to Krug, Scandella, and Faulk.

Big UFAs like that will demand it for at least a few years just to prevent sneaky GMs from flipping them early into a contract. Probably has become more demanded now after McPhee pulled that fast move with Nate Schmidt.

 

[CanadienShark]

The Montreal Canadiens are the only Canadien team the rest of them are Canadian

I'm used to it. Hell, even met a fair # of people last vacation that referred to our country as "Canadia."

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I'm used to it. Hell, even met a fair # of people last vacation that referred to our country as "Canadia."

You're from Canada? Do you know Troy, I think he lives in Toronto or maybe Mooseknuckle?

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

You're from Canada? Do you know Troy, I think he lives in Toronto or maybe Mooseknuckle?

You’re from Canada. Do you play hockey?

 

[HugeInTheShire]

You’re from Canada. Do you play hockey?

Ya fer sure, it’s only a couple klicks to the ODR.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Ya fer sure, it’s only a couple klicks to the ODR.

 

[stl76]

I'm quite surprised how liberally Armstrong has given out full NTC, or close to full to Krug, Scandella, and Faulk.

That's what happens when you sign UFA's

FWIW Scandella is a only 7-team no trade list and the other two go from full to partial NTC's in the later years of the contracts. They're basically all structured to be a moveable if/when the player needs to be moved.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I haven’t heard that in forever

 

[BlueSeal]

Ahh… never mind lol

 

[PocketNines]

No, the Blues don't want to move players. Only some fans who decided from the start that they didn't like Krug, probably because people were bitter about Petro leaving.



That's your opinion, but it doesn't mean that all Blues fans agree. I personally think our top 4 is fine, but we need someone better than Mikkola or Walman for the 3rd pair.

Correct, we disagree, but you also were one of those guys who hated Pietrangelo and supported the idea that Shattenkirk was better. I am extremely comfortable being on the opposite side of how you appraise defense.

 

[finnishflash13]

Weird fanboy trade fantasies that have no basis in reality are bizarre af.