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Speculation: IS THERE A f***ING PLAN BARRY OR ARE YOU JUST AN IDIOT??

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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. We're losing and trying to cement a top 3 pick/get ahead of Chicago for a top 2 pick,
this trade doesn't seem like the straw that breaks the camel's back. We got rid of Schenn and the cost to do that was Novak and we get a 4th for our troubles. We got a little older and a little worse at forward but we're a bottom feeder and Novak isn't a star or even a potential star.

We're going scorched earth and doing a giant rebuild and getting rid of a lot of guys for picks. It's gonna suck for ticket holders but that's the plan.
 
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We are dead last in goals per game and we trade one of the few players who actually scores every now and again. The only way this ends up making any sense is if it's a strangers on a train thing where the teams that want actulky want Bunting and Novak are teams Pit and us didn't want to trade with directly and they both get flipped somewhere else for a pick. The 4th for Schenn seems about right value wise.
 
Evangelista is next.

Getting assigned to that 3rd line is like being on death row.

And the right side of our defense is just as bad. Totally vaporized at this point.
 
Top 6 Spaling said:
There is a huge difference between "fun, young, bad team low in the standings" and "10 of our 12 forwards under contract for next year will be 30 or older on opening night. And we're low in the standings"

It's been clear since Trotz didn't follow through with the rebuild he has no plan or idea what he's doing.
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Next season is an eternity from now at this point, this team is gonna like really different then, at the draft and this Friday.
 
So it took losing Novak on a down year to get rid of Schenn’s bad contract. Sounds like fixing one self induced problem and creating another.
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If you add up all the Pens/Preds trades this year it's really weird.

Tomasino, Novak, Schenn, Glass, 3rd, 6th for Bunting, 4th, 4th and Frasca.

A massive, bizarre trade. But yea, you would think that if you set out to build a market for Tomasino, Novak and Schenn you would be able to get more. Idk.
 
Let's not forget Matt "Retiring in Nashville" Duchene: 25 goals, 37 assists, 62 points in 61 games. That's excellent production for what we're paying him. It's too bad we're paying him to play on another team. I guess he didn't fit our team's "hard to play against" identity.

There's no way this isn't nothing but a huge failure, among many others. Our new identity is that we're a "Hard to Watch" team.

Wonder what Poile thinks?
 
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Soundgarden said:
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. We're losing and trying to cement a top 3 pick/get ahead of Chicago for a top 2 pick,
this trade doesn't seem like the straw that breaks the camel's back. We got rid of Schenn and the cost to do that was Novak and we get a 4th for our troubles. We got a little older and a little worse at forward but we're a bottom feeder and Novak isn't a star or even a potential star.

We're going scorched earth and doing a giant rebuild and getting rid of a lot of guys for picks. It's gonna suck for ticket holders but that's the plan.
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There is a lot of hope in that statement but I think Barry's plan is to dump contracts and buy a bunch more guys with whatever cap he has and take another run at it thinking it will work this time. If you are going scorched earth, you maybe dump those guys but not for what he got in return.

The scary part is I think this means Brunette is back for another season which is freaking mind blowing.

Might as well buckle your seatbelts and put your helmets on because we are about to be a part of one of the worst trainwrecks in history.
 
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Armourboy said:
There is a lot of hope in that statement but I think Barry's plan is to dump contracts and buy a bunch more guys with whatever cap he has and take another run at it thinking it will work this time. If you are going scorched earth, you maybe dump those guys but not for what he got in return.

The scary part is I think this means Brunette is back for another season which is freaking mind blowing.

Might as well buckle your seatbelts and put your helmets on because we are about to be a part of one of the worst trainwrecks in history.
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100%. This is far from scorched earth. Scorched earth is what San Jose did. They got rid of fan favorites, great players, average players, role players, the woman who answered the phone, several of the girls with the shovels that cleared snow, ...

Trotz is still clinging to the big contract guys he signed in free agency. It's almost as if he thinks if he moves any of them it will show that he is completely incompetent. Far better to dump role players and young prospects before giving them a chance.
 
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Bunting is nyquist replacement next season.

Even after this crappy season of questionable coaching decisions, Trotz is making moves in a way that seem to backup Bruno.

Just gotta solve the center, RHD, and goaltending issues and we will be the champ
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I've heard this tune before. Doug Wilson sang that same song, "Just a Couple of Players Away", when all he was really doing was spending money on big ticket free agents and making the inevitable rebuild much longer and much more difficult. But in his case, he got sick and left the mess on someone else's front porch.
 
Has there ever been a NHL champ where your top two centers are 35 or older?

I honestly dont see how you salvage this team. The top 6 is old. The centers are the oldest. We barely have any NHL quality dman and the top one appears to be nearing double digit concussions. Goaltending isnt good enough to make up for that.

We need
a real top center thats young (draft maybe but thatll take a few years of development... this isnt the mcdavid draft)
A real top rhd
 
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I am appalled at how quickly we went from a respected, well run if not top tier franchise to the pile of steaming shit on July afternoon. Trotz has destroyed any good will with the rank and file fan. We are not willing to be patient any more because there is nothing to hope for. I will be interested to see how corporate renewals and sales go this off season. I hope Haslam sees the financials and is willing to pull the trigger to can him. Unless, Trotz is deliberately tanking us so the team can be sold and moved elsewhere...

Kat Predator said:
There does seem to be a little support out there

4. C'mon guys, his moves ain't bad.
5. We're a player or two away for winning the Cup.
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You might want to lay off the wacky tobbaky...
 
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ILikeItILoveIt said:
Wonder what Poile thinks?
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Armourboy said:
There is a lot of hope in that statement but I think Barry's plan is to dump contracts and buy a bunch more guys with whatever cap he has and take another run at it thinking it will work this time. If you are going scorched earth, you maybe dump those guys but not for what he got in return.

The scary part is I think this means Brunette is back for another season which is freaking mind blowing.

Might as well buckle your seatbelts and put your helmets on because we are about to be a part of one of the worst trainwrecks in history.
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BT must be one heck of a salesman! If he has Ownership still believing in his vision after all of this is amazing!
 
I liked Tommy. Given our current situation I was prepared to see him moved, but I thought it would be for a return I would be excited about.
 
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