Speculation: Is the Rebuild / Retool over?

[BB88]

I again feel that the support group/core is there(u25 group) but the leader is still missing.

Need to find that franchise C prospect somehow, Bergeron can't be Bergeron forever.

 

[DKH]

I again feel that the support group/core is there(u25 group) but the leader is still missing.

Need to find that franchise C prospect somehow, Bergeron can't be Bergeron forever.

JFK & Ftederic two of the top 5 center prospects in college hockey

How do you get a McDavid or Crosby ?

Pick first overall

Bergeron has enough left for the transformation of those two and my sleeper Donato

 

[Pia8988]

JFK & Ftederic two of the top 5 center prospects in college hockey

How do you get a McDavid or Crosby ?

Pick first overall

Bergeron has enough left for the transformation of those two and my sleeper Donato

Too bad for New Jersey this is the year they got there. Looking more like RNH.

 

[DKH]

Jimmy Johns Nation needs to chill on this rebuild

Last 3 drafts they took 14 players who will play atleast 50 NHL games and my analytics show a minimum 10 full time regulars

Of the 14 only 2 have reached that level to date
Pastrnak
Carlo

Next season the list could grow another 4
McAvoy
DeBrusk
Heinen
JFK

And if Bjork signs instead of back to school add him that's 7 and we are at 50%

Donato
Zboril
Lauzon
Senyshyn
Lindgren
Frederic
Gabrielle

All will be NHLers most top 9 top 4

So let's wait on the retool when only 2 of 14 have made it and neither is even legal drinking age

Thanks Donny, Scott, JFJ and all the scouts for being on the cusp of something that's never been done

 

[Blowfish]

Jimmy Johns Nation needs to chill on this rebuild

Last 3 drafts they took 14 players who will play atleast 50 NHL games and my analytics show a minimum 10 full time regulars

Of the 14 only 2 have reached that level to date
Pastrnak
Carlo

Next season the list could grow another 5
McAvoy
Cehlarik
DeBrusk
Heinen
JFK

And if Bjork signs instead of back to school add him that's 7 and we are at 50%

Donato
Zboril
Lauzon
Senyshyn
Lindgren
Frederic
Gabrielle

All will be NHLers most top 9 top 4

So let's wait on the retool when only 2 of 14 have made it and neither is even legal drinking age

Thanks Donny, Scott, JFJ and all the scouts for being on the cusp of something that's never been done

Missed one.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Bruins fans are hilarious

Unlike Buffalo Toronto Tampa Florida Detroit (now) Flyers Islanders Columbus Arizona NJ Dallas Columbus Winnipeg Edmonton Calgary Vancouver Minnesota Colorado etc the Bruins haven't sucked during this New Deal like transformation from 96 to 95 points

Did not have to dip in the 40 and 70 point or even 80's like Montreal last year

Bruins are in the 90's and Whoa rebuild retool fire everyone

I'm told it's a millennial thing whatever that actually means

Standing ovation from me (if I knew how: gif of Orson Wells clapping).

 

[DKH]

Missed one.

I just narrowed it down to last 3 drafts when Bradley & Sweeney became more involved

 

[amazingcrwns]

I wouldn't say the rebuild is over, I'd say it's moved on to another phase. I don't think Sweeney is looking to add draft picks to restock the cupboards anymore. Now it's time to use those pieces and some future draft picks to build a roster around the prospects they identify as the next core group.

Bergeron, Marchand, Krejci, Backes, Krug and Rask will remain the veteran presence as Chara gets ready to hang up his skates.

 

[DKH]

I wouldn't say the rebuild is over, I'd say it's moved on to another phase. I don't think Sweeney is looking to add draft picks to restock the cupboards anymore. Now it's time to use those pieces and some future draft picks to build a roster around the prospects they identify as the next core group.

Bergeron, Marchand, Krejci, Backes, Krug and Rask will remain the veteran presence as Chara gets ready to hang up his skates.

Great post

I agree - next phase

Seeds have been planted

Waiting for harvest and see what it looks like

 

[ODAAT]

I think were just starting to see the retool, Part 1 was a nice show, introduced us to some kid named Carlo, with some nice showings from Kuraly/Acciari, a sprinkle of Cehlarik and the continued development/growth of Pasta with a nice bookend from McAvoy

I`m not great at projecting prospects, let alone one`s I`ve not seen play at all or not nearly enough to offer my opinion but I have to think spots will be there for the taking at camp and those spots are likely to be fought over by the prospects like JD/JFK/Heinen, not sure having not seen them play but maybe some noise made by Seny/Gabrielle

On the back end, who knows, there are a number of young players who could make a case for staying in Boston. My guess is O`Gara could have the inside track on a spot having played from what I`ve read here a solid game in Providence this past season. But with Lauzon/Zboril potentially being in the mix who knows

Either way, some here may recall a time where this organization has had so many "potential" NHL`ers, but this fan can`t, great to see

 

[finchster]

Perhaps it seems counter intuitive, but I want the Bruins to make a move for a defencemen between the ages of 26-30 and I don't mind if they package some youth to do it. Carlo and McAvoy were a revelation this season, but you don't know what you go with defencemen until they are 25ish. I like McAvoy, but I don't see him being a defencemen to make a big impact right away; and before some moron asks, yes I watched the playoffs.

We need a proven guy back there to take some heat off Chara and others. If we can get someone, the rebuild on the fly might be a success. Otherwise it is fool hearted to think defencemen improve on a continual upward trajectory.

 

[ODAAT]

Perhaps it seems counter intuitive, but I want the Bruins to make a move for a defencemen between the ages of 26-30 and I don't mind if they package some youth to do it. Carlo and McAvoy were a revelation this season, but you don't know what you go with defencemen until they are 25ish. I like McAvoy, but I don't see him being a defencemen to make a big impact right away; and before some moron asks, yes I watched the playoffs.

We need a proven guy back there to take some heat off Chara and others. If we can get someone, the rebuild on the fly might be a success. Otherwise it is fool hearted to think defencemen improve on a continual upward trajectory.

I don`t think that`s "counter intuitive" finchster, I think it`s wise, covering your bases. What I don`t want to see and what I would classify as a poor move is bringing in some past his prime D-man as a band-aid. I don`t have the faintest idea who`s out there for the taking but I`m sure all GM`s will have access to one another`s unprotected list for the Vegas purging and they`ll at least have some ideas which players opponents would be open for discussions on

 

[BB88]

JFK & Ftederic two of the top 5 center prospects in college hockey

How do you get a McDavid or Crosby ?

Pick first overall

Bergeron has enough left for the transformation of those two and my sleeper Donato

I'm just honest with what I see.
Future #1C is a huge concern to me.

The division has Matthews, Eichel, Barkov, could mention matchup ROR as well. Need to have someone who doesn't get completely dominated by them.

Bergeron is special so I believe he has 2-3 prime years left, but thats about the time McAvoy& Carlo need for developing.

 

[DKH]

I'm just honest with what I see.
Future #1C is a huge concern to me.

The division has Matthews, Eichel, Barkov, could mention matchup ROR as well. Need to have someone who doesn't get completely dominated by them.

Bergeron is special so I believe he has 2-3 prime years left, but thats about the time McAvoy& Carlo need for developing.

Eichel is the guy - if he doesn't sign the Bruins should inquire

hopefully he shoots his way out of town

 

[BNHL]

Eichel is the guy - if he doesn't sign the Bruins should inquire

hopefully he shoots his way out of town

Fingers,arms and legs and toes crossed.

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

Hesitant to accept either of the options listed. Would perhaps lean a little more to retool than rebuild. More so, see the situation being more of a continuation on the need to always be engaged in building on a roster. There are steps in either direction in a given year but not necessarily enormous ones in either direction. As others have pointed out, some teams take more extreme drops to rebuild. Some continue to stay stuck in neutral. A few get positioned to win it all.

For the Bruins, the classic combination of draft, trade and free agent formula that is being followed. It's necessary to ensure that minimally the structure to remain competitive is in place. When the pieces all come together you have a realistic chance to win it all. Sweeney has demonstrated he can be adept at all three disciplines. There are no major steps black ward and they are poised to make several forward in the shorter term and be positioned to take a run(s).

 

[ODAAT]

Fingers,arms and legs and toes crossed.

got a problem with eyes crossing? Absent from your list is all I`m saying

 

[BB88]

Eichel is the guy - if he doesn't sign the Bruins should inquire

hopefully he shoots his way out of town

Would think Buffalo will do everything they can to sign him this offseason.

 

[bp13]

With now a young nucleus forming with the grizzled core, do we have the pieces to build around to make a contender?

I say no. No way, in fact.

If we are being honest, the only thing we really have is good fortune with two draft picks, McAvoy and Carlo. Without them, we just have a solid number of prospects in a system, not unlike a lot of teams.

I'd like to think that IF we were undergoing a retool/rebuild, then it would mean more than just hoping to get lucky on 1-2 draft picks. I thought the goal was to get younger, faster, play a more up-tempo style, cut down on bloated contracts for veterans, etc. I still see plenty of overpaid vets, our style is hardly what I'd deem "up-tempo", and we have real holes in this roster. The GM doesn't seem able to make quality NHL additions to plug the 3rd and 4th lines, so is the hope all these guys come from draft picks? How long will that take? And where do we get high-end output to augment the 2nd line and help make Krejci relevant again?

Obviously progress has been made (Carlo and McAvoy have developed), but this team is not a contender by any stretch. We lost to a mediocre team in the 1st round, injuries or not. I think we are 2 years from being a real contender. If the kids continue to progress and 1-2 more make it, the GM learns on the job how to make an NHL-level acquisition, then we have something here. I think it might happen, but it's not this year.

 

[Estlin]

Would think Buffalo will do everything they can to sign him this offseason.

I'm sure that the Sabres will do that, but if the team has another poor outing next season, then Eichel might not be inclined to sign/stay. In any event, I believe that Boston is gearing up for an offersheet. A young, first-line center is the last piece of the puzzle.

 

[chizzler]

This Eichel talk is foolish. Kid is just venting. Buffalo would match anything. You'd have to overpay to get him. Basically gut the prospect pool. Buffalo isn't taking B prospects either. No projects.

 

[LouJersey]

I say no. No way, in fact.

If we are being honest, the only thing we really have is good fortune with two draft picks, McAvoy and Carlo. Without them, we just have a solid number of prospects in a system, not unlike a lot of teams.

I'd like to think that IF we were undergoing a retool/rebuild, then it would mean more than just hoping to get lucky on 1-2 draft picks. I thought the goal was to get younger, faster, play a more up-tempo style, cut down on bloated contracts for veterans, etc. I still see plenty of overpaid vets, our style is hardly what I'd deem "up-tempo", and we have real holes in this roster. The GM doesn't seem able to make quality NHL additions to plug the 3rd and 4th lines, so is the hope all these guys come from draft picks? How long will that take? And where do we get high-end output to augment the 2nd line and help make Krejci relevant again?

Obviously progress has been made (Carlo and McAvoy have developed), but this team is not a contender by any stretch. We lost to a mediocre team in the 1st round, injuries or not. I think we are 2 years from being a real contender. If the kids continue to progress and 1-2 more make it, the GM learns on the job how to make an NHL-level acquisition, then we have something here. I think it might happen, but it's not this year.

Extremely negative view IMO.

You don't think the Bruins beat Ottawa with a healthy team? It could be argued with a healthy team they would be leading the Rangers right now as well after seeing how they have played this series.

As for getting lucky with draft picks. Carlo and McAvoy are the first two to hit and the first two that have been given a chance. You're making it sound like all these kids have played a couple seasons and we got lucky on a couple.

As for bloated contracts. Hayes will be gone. Chara is down to 4 mil. Beleskey is at 3.8 for three seasons (signed the deal three summers ago). Backes is at 6 mil and I liked what he showed. The only issue is the Krejci deal and that was a problem not created by the current GM. I don't see this glut of huge problem contracts people consistently worry about (years in advance, how do y'all sleep?)

Summer is right around the corner so I'm sure you'll see a deal or two without an expansion draft looming.

Other than Pittsburgh there is not one team in this conference that the Bruins cannot compete with, Especially after Washington gets dismantled after all their UFA and impending annual choke.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Not complete. But the forecast for next couple years look very good to me. Seems like a 09-14 stretch is upon us.

 

[DKH]

I say no. No way, in fact.

If we are being honest, the only thing we really have is good fortune with two draft picks, McAvoy and Carlo. Without them, we just have a solid number of prospects in a system, not unlike a lot of teams.

I'd like to think that IF we were undergoing a retool/rebuild, then it would mean more than just hoping to get lucky on 1-2 draft picks. I thought the goal was to get younger, faster, play a more up-tempo style, cut down on bloated contracts for veterans, etc. I still see plenty of overpaid vets, our style is hardly what I'd deem "up-tempo", and we have real holes in this roster. The GM doesn't seem able to make quality NHL additions to plug the 3rd and 4th lines, so is the hope all these guys come from draft picks? How long will that take? And where do we get high-end output to augment the 2nd line and help make Krejci relevant again?

Obviously progress has been made (Carlo and McAvoy have developed), but this team is not a contender by any stretch. We lost to a mediocre team in the 1st round, injuries or not. I think we are 2 years from being a real contender. If the kids continue to progress and 1-2 more make it, the GM learns on the job how to make an NHL-level acquisition, then we have something here. I think it might happen, but it's not this year.

Couldn't disagree more. Weren't some of your trades for Trouba - McAvoy & Pastrnak last summer

My track record is so superior suprised you still go against me

All I know is in March 2011 I was listening and reading to this team is not a contender by any stretch and I cautioned its wide open and if they get the goal tending from Thomas anything is possible

 

[bp13]

Couldn't disagree more. Weren't some of your trades for Trouba - McAvoy & Pastrnak last summer

My track record is so superior suprised you still go against me

All I know is in March 2011 I was listening and reading to this team is not a contender by any stretch and I cautioned its wide open and if they get the goal tending from Thomas anything is possible

No, they weren't. I never offered McAvoy and Pastrnak for Trouba (insert laugh emoticon to be equally condescending).

But I don't see how that is relevant. It doesn't matter what me or any fan would do. It matters that the GM make the right moves. I think a key part of this retool/rebuild will be the GM learning how to both be more aggressive and make the right NHL-caliber acquisitions. He can't rely solely on prospects to turn this team into a contender, and he can't keep missing with the NHL guys he acquires. I'm not sure how one "learns" to be better at that, but it's still key that he does.

I also don't think I'm saying something too negative here either. Being 1-2 years from contention is still a good spot. It's progress, can't deny that. I just think it's pretty clear they aren't contenders now. They weren't this year and I don't think they have a shot to be next year. But the following year? Seems possible.