Is the Rebuild almost done? POLL

[Habs]

Funny to think we may be further along with the rebuild if we kept Kovacevic, Allen, Romanov , drafted Leonard/Michkov and saved the Laine contract for the FA market. I didn't mind the Laine trade at the time, risk/reward was worth what we gave up, so I can't fault mgmnt on that one.

Well not funny in a 'haha' way, but a sad 'ironic' way. 1 step forward, 2 back?

 

[Toene]

Starting next season:

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Demidov - XXXXXXX - Laine

We need a real proven brand name 2nd line center acquired via trade.

Hutson - XXXXXX
Guhle - Carrier
Xhekaj - Reinbacher/Mailloux

We need a real proven brand name top line defensive partner for Hutson acquired via trade.

If they can make these 2 moves we will be a serious cup contender.


I would like to try Dach as our 3C next season

Suzuki
XXXXX
Dach
Beck

If I'm HuGo I'm offering a blank check to Rasmus Andersson (if he makes it to free agency, of course).

 

[Kennerback]

View attachment 974888

Are you popping gummies again???

The fact gummies were popped or not is immaterial. I stand by the statement. Bossy will be Demidov, Trottier will be Caufield, Suzuki and others by Commitee. Slafkovsky will be Gillies and Hutson will be Potvin. These players will grow into those roles. They are still green. The problem is our supporting cast stinks. It pales in comparison to Butch Goring, Nystrom, Tonelli, Langevin, Sutters, Morrow, etc… And obviously Billy Smith is still to be determined.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

If I'm HuGo I'm offering a blank check to Rasmus Andersson (if he makes it to free agency, of course).

Great solution. Who's a good target at 2C?

 

[Guy Larose]

If I'm HuGo I'm offering a blank check to Rasmus Andersson (if he makes it to free agency, of course).

Except he's not a UFA until the summer of 2026

 

[Habs]

The fact gummies were popped or not is immaterial. I stand by the statement. Bossy will be Demidov, Trottier will be Caufield, Suzuki and others by Commitee. Slafkovsky will be Gillies and Hutson will be Potvin. These players will grow into those roles. They are still green. The problem is our supporting cast stinks. It pales in comparison to Butch Goring, Nystrom, Tonelli, Langevin, Sutters, Morrow, etc… And obviously Billy Smith is still to be determined.

I spotted your Gummie post , I knew it

 

[Sasha Orlov]

The fact gummies were popped or not is immaterial. I stand by the statement. Bossy will be Demidov, Trottier will be Caufield, Suzuki and others by Commitee. Slafkovsky will be Gillies and Hutson will be Potvin. These players will grow into those roles. They are still green. The problem is our supporting cast stinks. It pales in comparison to Butch Goring, Nystrom, Tonelli, Langevin, Sutters, Morrow, etc… And obviously Billy Smith is still to be determined.

Damn that’s crazy

 

[HabsCowboysOwn]

This rebuild? Almost done?

 

[Toene]

Except he's not a UFA until the summer of 2026

Shit. I don't know why but I was sure it was this summer.

 

[Kimota]

 

[Scriptor]

I disagree. Dach has been producing about as expected since late December and that would only improve with Demidov coming up.

The guy I'm not sure about on the 2nd is Laine. If he can regain his form then great. But right now I don't see it.

I don't see us moving towards a big name RD. I think Reinbacher will come in and he'll gradually take that role. I can see us getting another Carrier/Savard type for depth (if Savard is moved at the deadline.)

Who would be the other top-4 D? I don't think that Carrier, ideally, is a long term solution for the top-4, even if he can do okay alongside Guhle, as we have seen when he first arrived.

I also don't think that another depth addition would solve that need.

I'd rather have Mailloux with Xhekaj as a 3rd pairing D with upside than a depth D acquired in the meantime.

But, at the same time, I don't think that we need a BIG NAME RHD addition for the top-4 if we end up playing Reinbacher with Guhle as a shutdown pair with offensive upside.

We'd need a physical D that is mobile, plays solid defense and can at least make a good first pass to play with Hutson, but he would not need top be a 1st pairing D or, even a solid #3. He could be a genuine #4 D that complements Hutson's skill set.

An Alexander Romanov type of D, only as a righty.

Maybe even a Kovacevic type, if we had kept him? His hard shot could have come in handy as another target for Hutson's playmaking.

 

[Scriptor]

I don't know if the rebuild is nearly over or not, but that "in the mix" crap is definitely done.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I don't know if the rebuild is nearly over or not, but that "in the mix" crap is definitely done.

They made it in the mix and then sustained two injuries that they couldn't overcome.

 

[angusyoung]

What a silly question

 

[Scriptor]

They made it in the mix and then sustained two injuries that they couldn't overcome.

Yes, they were briefly in the mix, but the depth of this team was fragile, ass demonstrated when the train went off the rails simply with the sole injury to Heineman, before Guhle was even injured.

Guhle's injury was the stake right through the heart, with any chance of weathering the storm gone.

They weren't going to climb back in the mix and that is what I am calling crap, those holding on to such impossible odds as hope, once Guhle went down.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Even with Demidov coming there is undeniable potential for a big step back next season, which absolutely can't happen in year 4/5 of the rebuild.

A lot of potential roster turnover with the expiring contracts, and disappointing growth from our young players. I don't see how anyone can reasonably project us as a better team next year, while simultaneously trying to trade half of the roster for futures.

Hard decisions need to be made to avoid a potential disaster and save the rebuild.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

They made it in the mix and then sustained two injuries that they couldn't overcome.

yeah those 2 injuries made everyone on the team give up

 

[Scriptor]

Even with Demidov coming there is undeniable potential for a big step back next season, which absolutely can't happen in year 4/5 of the rebuild.

A lot of potential roster turnover with the expiring contracts, and disappointing growth from our young players. I don't see how anyone can reasonably project us as a better team next year, while simultaneously trying to trade half of the roster for futures.

Hard decisions need to be made to avoid a potential disaster and save the rebuild.

It's true that turnover will affect the team chemistry, but losing Dvorak and Armia won't kill us and that, technically, would only;y free up Armia's spot in the lineup, as Beck is already slotted to be a better version of Dvorak as early as next year, IMO.

What will hurt the overall dynamics of our lineup, IMO, will be losing Evans, but having a bonafide 2C is more important than Evans to this team and would far make up for losing Evans.

The boost of performance on the top-6 would outweigh the loss.

Montreal does need to make certain moves to address the fragility of the roster's makeup at this point in thew rebuild.

We can't just idly wait for talented prospects to pan out. Every year waiting is a wasted year of Suzuki and Caufield's current sweet deal contracts.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Funny to think we may be further along with the rebuild if we kept Kovacevic, Allen, Romanov , drafted Leonard/Michkov and saved the Laine contract for the FA market. I didn't mind the Laine trade at the time, risk/reward was worth what we gave up, so I can't fault mgmnt on that one.

Well not funny in a 'haha' way, but a sad 'ironic' way. 1 step forward, 2 back?

Nah. I'm good with where we are. Romanov is a solid dude but Dach's better for us. Now that he's healthy again, he's showing why we traded for him. I'm more than fine with that trade.

Allen? Really? Do you remember the venom on the boards for that guy?

Kovacevic - none of us even remember that guy. I barely remember him and there was almost no comment when he left.

Leonard/Michkov - like I told you, let's see on this. You've written off Reinbacher before he's played a game. You may be right on this but it's far too early to say.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Who would be the other top-4 D? I don't think that Carrier, ideally, is a long term solution for the top-4, even if he can do okay alongside Guhle, as we have seen when he first arrived.

We need another guy on the right side. Matheson will be traded, Struble (who I really like) will be traded. We have others that will be traded. And we can leverage that for more help on the right.

To be honest though, Carriere looks great with Guhle. I'm happy with an upgrade but he's fine for now.

I also don't think that another depth addition would solve that need.

I'd rather have Mailloux with Xhekaj as a 3rd pairing D with upside than a depth D acquired in the meantime.

But, at the same time, I don't think that we need a BIG NAME RHD addition for the top-4 if we end up playing Reinbacher with Guhle as a shutdown pair with offensive upside.

We'd need a physical D that is mobile, plays solid defense and can at least make a good first pass to play with Hutson, but he would not need top be a 1st pairing D or, even a solid #3. He could be a genuine #4 D that complements Hutson's skill set.

An Alexander Romanov type of D, only as a righty.

Maybe even a Kovacevic type, if we had kept him? His hard shot could have come in handy as another target for Hutson's playmaking.

I'm not opposed to getting a big RD. But they're not easy to find. We'd probably have to include a Maillioux going back. I wouldn't want to give up RB.

 

[Habs]

Nah. I'm good with where we are. Romanov is a solid dude but Dach's better for us. Now that he's healthy again, he's showing why we traded for him. I'm more than fine with that trade.

Allen? Really? Do you remember the venom on the boards for that guy?

Kovacevic - none of us even remember that guy. I barely remember him and there was almost no comment when he left.

Leonard/Michkov - like I told you, let's see on this. You've written off Reinbacher before he's played a game. You may be right on this but it's far too early to say.

I quite liked Kovacevic when he was here. We would have more points with Allen, Kovacevic, Romanov I believe, so if we are talking advancing the rebuild we would have been better off for sniffing the post season.
Reinbacher isn't anything special, he isn't a better prospect than Levshunov and even he's having a hard time at this point in the AHL. He was an overhyped RHD , in my view ( I know he has a huge fanclub here, but whatever )

How is Dach better for us again?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I quite liked Kovacevic when he was here. We would have more points with Allen, Kovacevic, Romanov I believe, so if we are talking advancing the rebuild we would have been better off for sniffing the post season.

People could not wait to get rid of Allen here. And if we'd kept him people would be screaming for us to trade him for a pick. No doubt about that.

Kovacevic... I don't even remember that guy.

Reinbacher isn't anything special, he isn't a better prospect than Levshunov and even he's having a hard time at this point in the AHL. He was an overhyped RHD , in my view ( I know he has a huge fanclub here, but whatever )

He doesn't have to be special. He just needs to be steady and carry the puck.

How is Dach better for us again?

We don't need Romanov. We have better left side blueliners and badly need center depth. Since late December, Dach has bounced back and is producing at a 50 point/82 game pace. That's far more valuable to us right now.

 

[Habs]

People could not wait to get rid of Allen here. And if we'd kept him people would be screaming for us to trade him for a pick. No doubt about that.

Kovacevic... I don't even remember that guy.

He doesn't have to be special. He just needs to be steady and carry the puck.

We don't need Romanov. We have better left side blueliners and badly need center depth. Since late December, Dach has bounced back and is producing at a 50 point/82 game pace. That's far more valuable to us right now.

I disagree with everything you've said lol. He doesn't have to be special? At 5th overall and passing on Michkov/Leonard? Ok, wtf

Kovacevic would be a top 4 on this piece of shit blueline
We don't need Romanov, but we need a floater like Dach? ok

 

[Scriptor]

I disagree with everything you've said lol. He doesn't have to be special? At 5th overall and passing on Michkov/Leonard? Ok, wtf

Kovacevic would be a top 4 on this piece of shit blueline
We don't need Romanov, but we need a floater like Dach? ok

Please, tell us how you really feel.

 

[Habs]

Please, tell us how you really feel.

Since 2002!