Is Tampa cooked?

[Fatass]

Tamps isn’t cooked. They’re burnt. IMO Cooper is moving on. He sees the downfall and is jumping ship.

 

[Fantomas]

Yeah probably should have specified mid playoff team.. obviously they aren’t truly mediocre in the context of the full 32 team field

A mid playoff team can win the cup while a great regular season team can lose in the first round (think 2023 Bruins). The NHL playoffs are crazy that way. It's not like the NBA.

This is primarily why I wouldn't blow things up if I'm Brisebois. Slight retool maybe.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Not cooked at all.

 

[MessierII]

Kind of like Detroit was in the early 2010’s.

 

[Fatass]

Yes. Old core heading south. Replace the coach, trade all the guys that will waive, collect picks, and rebuild.

 

[NVious]

Honestly reading the injuries they might have a few more seasons they could go on a run on.

Bjorkstrand: (too complicated to write)
Cirelli: MCL Sprain Game 1
Glendening: AC Joint separation
Gourde: Broke a finger Game 1
Hagel: Concussion
Hedman: Broke foot Game 4
Kucherov: Suffered an injury in Feb he was managing
Paul: Tear in left wrist

 

[Frank Drebin]

Kind of like Detroit was in the early 2010’s.

oooh can they hire yzerman back?

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Kind of like Detroit was in the early 2010’s.

And the Penguins around 2020. Should still be good for a couple more years but not a serious contender anymore. Slow decline coming. Just how it goes in this league for a successful core.

 

[PettersonHughes]

Most likely not a top-tier contender (FLA, TOR, CAR, WSH?) but if they make the playoffs and then have an advantageous matchup they could still go for a deep run. Nobody ever has a walk in the park against the reigning Cup champs in their prime and this postseason for them was unfortunately nothing different. Their pieces are still very solid though, at least from a regular season perspective, and there is still longevity to be had with the key guys:

Kuch: 31 y/o, 2 years left, Hart-nominated season (#1 RW)
Point: 29 y/o, 3 years left, 82 point season (#1 C)
Hagel: 26 y/o, 90 points, 3 years left (#1 LW)
Guentzel: 30, 80 points, 3 years left (#2 LW)
Cirelli: 27, 59 points and Selke nominated season, 3 years left (#2 C)
Bjorkstrand: 30, 46 points, 1 year left (3rd W)
Paul: 30, 41 points, 3 years left (#3 C)

Hedman: 34, 3 years left, 66 points (~#1D)
McDonagh/ Cernak: Ryan's getting older but they're still an elite shutdown duo
Raddysh: 29, 37 points, 1 year left, PP2 (probably want to upgrade him but still viable offensively)

Vasi: 30, 3 years left, 37-20-5 (still #1 G)

 

[Fatass]

Yes. Imo the Lightning are on a series downward trend. They still have some really good players, albeit older, and should get into the top three in their division. But their window for winning another Cup is closed.