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Dark Schneider
- Jul 7, 2009
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Jeff Gorton Top 10 picks:
JURAJ SLAFKOVSKY
ALEXIS LAFRENIÈRE
KAAPO KAKKO
DAVID REINBACHER
LIAS ANDERSSON
VITALI KRAVTSOV
That list is damning , he shouldn’t have a job
Jeff Gorton Top 10 picks:
JURAJ SLAFKOVSKY
ALEXIS LAFRENIÈRE
KAAPO KAKKO
DAVID REINBACHER
LIAS ANDERSSON
VITALI KRAVTSOV
If anything it seems like all you're saying is that these players aren't great at 19. Maybe the league they're playing in isn't necessarily relevant or a good way to judge a player future production when they're so raw. Obviously it' be nice if Slafkovsky was scoring at a higher rate, but it isn't like anyone on Montreal is. The team is bad. Slafkovsky is looking more and more comfortable out there. I don't think there's any problem at all.Tage wasn’t a full time NHLer with no AHL/college time until his d+5.
Byfield wasn’t a full time NHLer with no AHL time until his d+4.
Slafkovsky has never stepped foot in the AHL.
The Canadians are the problem, not the player.
Despite the fact he has been playing much better, the stats are zero zero zero.
Needs his play to translate into pts.
Shootout goals don't count for a reason. They are not real hockey plays.He literally scored the game winning shootout goal and that doesn't end up in the goal column judging by stats.
People must not watch the habs if they think they've got more deserving wingers than Slaf to promote...
The last 6-7 games are reassuring. He’s more noticeable than Caufield and Suzuki.
Nope that’s not what I’m saying at all.If anything it seems like all you're saying is that these players aren't great at 19. Maybe the league they're playing in isn't necessarily relevant or a good way to judge a player future production when they're so raw. Obviously it' be nice if Slafkovsky was scoring at a higher rate, but it isn't like anyone on Montreal is. The team is bad. Slafkovsky is looking more and more comfortable out there. I don't think there's any problem at all.
Not all players are the same. It's impossible to speculate how Slafkovsky would be doing if he were in an entirely different situation.Nope that’s not what I’m saying at all.
Tage was PPG in the NCAA as a 19 year old.
Byfield was a scoring at 2/3 a ppg in the AHL as a 19 year old.
What I’m saying is Slavkovsky being in the NHL last year and this year is likely hurting his development.
Especially when Montreal is not competing. I don’t get the logic.
He has 2 goals and 7 points in 27 games…He's been one of our best players for 2 weeks now, time to pump the brakes on both sides
This is a major yikes, especially since they say the head GM is mostly involved with high picks with the scouts and AGM doing more research in the late picksJeff Gorton Top 10 picks:
JURAJ SLAFKOVSKY
ALEXIS LAFRENIÈRE
KAAPO KAKKO
DAVID REINBACHER
LIAS ANDERSSON
VITALI KRAVTSOV
Despite the fact he has been playing much better, the stats are zero zero zero.
Needs his play to translate into pts.
He has 2 goals and 7 points in 27 games…
Would be relevant if Gorton was the GMThis is a major yikes, especially since they say the head GM is mostly involved with high picks with the scouts and AGM doing more research in the late picks
By that logic there is no point where we can know for sure that it was a Canadians problem and not a player problem.Not all players are the same. It's impossible to speculate how Slafkovsky would be doing if he were in an entirely different situation.
This x100.IMO, if you're in a hockey pool or fantasy league, it's time to buy low for him. Not sure what's his maximum upside but anybody with eyes can see he's figuring it out. It's kinda funny how little it did translate in points lately, but he's blossoming in front of our eyes. It really feels like Byfield from last year. Slaf has had a slow start for a first overall and he will be a very good player.
Honestly I wish there's was more people here trying to get to the truth about players instead of bashing or always assuming someone is a homer. What's the point of all that?
Somebody who's looking only at scoreboards won't see the progression. I love when hockey fans from other teams chimes in and tell me who's about to break out or what doesn't tell the whole story. I remember when Devils fans where telling us Jack Hughes that was coming along nicely, even if the points weren't there yet. It's not about being right, or rivalries or pettiness, just give me the truth!
he's a bad shooter but the rest has definitely come a long way from even the beginning of the season.This x100.
Anyone who actually watches the games instead of just checking the box score knows that Slaf has made huge strides over the past month (admittedly from a lower performance level) to the point where he has been one of the best performers on the team. That's not to say there isn't still room for improvement, especially in his end product. And of course questions will be raised about his shooting, decision making, etc. if he just performs well without getting on the scoresheet a year from now, but at this point in his career I'll take progress in his game over the numbers. And it's almost funny how snakebitten he's been lately.
I will never understand why the NHL doesn't just extend 3-3 to 15 minutes or something, it would nearly never result in a shootout. Shootouts are the worst way to end a hockey game.Shootout goals don't count for a reason. They are not real hockey plays.
Hughes had spectacular prospect pedigree. Byfield has better pedigree than Slafkovsky if you go by league play. Byfield was a bit of a reach at 2OA imo but GMs love that size+strength combo. He's come along but what are the odds Slafkovsky can repeat Byfield's long-shot development success but without the AHL demotions?he's a bad shooter but the rest has definitely come a long way from even the beginning of the season.
I was 100% certain Hughes would figure it out, I was 90% certain with QB and I am about 90% certain Slaf will become a very valuable piece to a winning team. He may never get more than 60-70 pts but he can be that Nichushkin type of player who brings the elements not all high scoring players can.
Very excited to see his progress from here on out
TV rights, ad sales, etc. TV programming doesn't want games to end at random times because it's a mess for the rest of the schedule.I will never understand why the NHL doesn't just extend 3-3 to 15 minutes or something, it would nearly never result in a shootout. Shootouts are the worst way to end a hockey game.
Not all players are the same. It's impossible to speculate how Slafkovsky would be doing if he were in an entirely different situation.
The same Jeff Gorton picked Lane Hutson too.
Would be relevant if Gorton was the GM
I will never understand why the NHL doesn't just extend 3-3 to 15 minutes or something, it would nearly never result in a shootout. Shootouts are the worst way to end a hockey game.
Byfield has better pedigree than Slafkovsky if you go by league play. Byfield was a bit of a reach at 2OA imo but GMs love that size+strength combo. He's come along but what are the odds Slafkovsky can repeat Byfield's long-shot development success but without the AHL demotions?
Which is why they got him out of the NHL. Almost like forcing someone into the NHL before they are ready hurts their development.People need to remember that it is not always linear. Leon was not a #1 pick, but the guy looked terrible when he first played in Edmonton. Bambi on skates. Looked like he did not belong on NHL ice at all.
He improved everywhere to levels I didn't think he could come close to getting to.