Is Rasmus Dahlin an idiot?

93LEAFS

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He's an all-star level player but people really threw around the word generational around way too much around his draft. A generational player should be competing for Hart trophies early on in their careers like Crosby, McDavid and Ovechkin. He's entering year 7 of his career and Noah Dobson has finished just as high in Norris voting (8th) as Dahlin ever has, Bouchard has a 5th place finish, and Quinn Hughes has a Norris.

People forget how up and down development for young defenceman at the NHL level is.
 

CowbellConray

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He's an all-star level player but people really threw around the word generational around way too much around his draft. A generational player should be competing for Hart trophies early on in their careers like Crosby, McDavid and Ovechkin. He's entering year 7 of his career and Noah Dobson has finished just as high in Norris voting (8th) as Dahlin ever has, Bouchard has a 5th place finish, and Quinn Hughes has a Norris.

People forget how up and down development for young defenceman at the NHL level is.
To be fair, Dahlin had everything you could want in a prospect on the defense. Size, speed, offense, defense, physicality, chippy play, transition play. I dont know that you can find a defensive PROSPECT with his proven skill going into a draft of the past 20 years. That's where generational comes into play. No prospect on defense looked as good as he did, or has since. Dahlin hasn't lived up to generational, but his prospect status wasn't an asinine thing in its time.
 

biturbo19

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I don't think he's an idiot, but he does play a sometimes overly aggressive style of game and is prone to the odd boneheaded mistake or misjudging of a situation. He's just got the tools to play a riskier style, and the confidence that he can make up for some "ooopsies". Makes him a very fun player to watch imo, but it does come with some head scratching decisions occasionally.

He's still a darn good defenceman though. Right in the conversation at the fringes of the Norris conversation in a good year. His dynamic side is that bigtime on the "plus" side that i think he's capable of sticking around in that tier just short of the absolute elite guys, even while making bigger mistakes than most of the rest of them typically do.
 

93LEAFS

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To be fair, Dahlin had everything you could want in a prospect on the defense. Size, speed, offense, defense, physicality, chippy play, transition play. I dont know that you can find a defensive PROSPECT with his proven skill going into a draft of the past 20 years. That's where generational comes into play. No prospect on defense looked as good as he did, or has since. Dahlin hasn't lived up to generational, but his prospect status wasn't an asinine thing in its time.
I didn't think he was generational at the time. Generational would generally mean he's competition for Harts within his ELC if he lands. Which wasn't going to be the case, even expecting him to be getting Norris's on his ELC was likely an unrealistic prediction. He wasn't a clearly better prospect than Matthews, Eichel, and MacKinnon. When throwing around generational, it should mean likely to be that they will be in the discussion for best player in the league, regardless of position, which didn't seem like a realistic projection.
 

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