Is Pettersson a top 5 C in the league?

[Rowlet]

This year probably, but he's in a group with 5~ other guys who are basically interchangeable.

McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews are top 3, then Pettersson, Reinhart, Miller, Aho, Hughes, Eichel, Barkov, and Draisaitl are all interchangeable depending on who's playing hot.

 

[Three On Zero]

Surely if their playoff performance was sustainable we'd be seeing it this season no?

Also I'm not saying Eichel wasn't great in playoffs he was. But one playoffs doesn't catapult you up the rankings.

Can’t tell until we get to the playoffs

Playoff hockey and in season hockey are not the same thing

And Eichel never catapulted up the rankings, it’s simply shuffling positions

 

[PuckG]

This year, yes.

Overall, not yet - but if he sustains what he’s doing consistently moving forward, then no question, he makes the top 5.

 

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I’d take Pettersson over Matthews any day of the week

Matthews is nothing but a goal scorer who’s a non factor in the post season

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[Jetcetera]

McDavid
Mackinnon
Matthews
Eichel / Hughes / Pettersson
Crosby / Point / Barkov / Draisaitl

You have Eichel way too high

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Surely if their playoff performance was sustainable we'd be seeing it this season no?

Also I'm not saying Eichel wasn't great in playoffs he was. But one playoffs doesn't catapult you up the rankings.

Vegas has been without their top 2 goalies for most of their bad stretch.
As a nucks fan I saw last season what that's like and you as an oiler fan this season.

Come playoff time if Vegas is healthy both our teams as well as the rest of the west, goes through Vegas. As useless as advanced stats are in the regular season, they mean even less.

 

[MrOT]

I don’t think so. A lot of fans were ragging on him this year for not being good enough before these past 4 games, and while he might have been playing through something and with inferior linemates, I still think he’s a little too inconsistent to be rated that high. Last year he was much better at controlling the ice when he was out there. He hasn’t found that level consistently this year despite the points. I think McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews and Draisaitl are clearly ahead and I’d also put Barkov and Hughes ahead. And even just for this year I’d put all but Draisaitl ahead. And Miller has an argument for this year as well. I’d say he’s somewhere in the top 10 but top 5 just feels a bit high

I think the linemates argument is very valid here. You rarely see a #1 superstar centre be degraded to a second line playing with 2nd-3d line quality linemates. Still he was able to hover around top 10 in scoring BEFORE returning to the top line, which is very impressive. And now after being reunited with the LOTTO line he has absolutely exploded. I think this version of Pettersson is closer to his actual level of play as his current situation is more comparable to other top Cs in the league.

 

[Three On Zero]

You have Eichel way too high

No, not really. That group of 7 has been fairly interchangeable

 

[Phrasing]

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I mean, he’s been out scoring Matthews since last season. It’s not an indefensible take and there’s larger than one season sample now.

I only see a tier of McDavid and Mackinnon ahead. The rest is another tier where each player oscillates from better to worse from time to time, of which Matthews, Draisaitl, Hughes and EP are in.

 

[McFlyingV]

Vegas has been without their top 2 goalies for most of their bad stretch.
As a nucks fan I saw last season what that's like and you as an oiler fan this season.

Come playoff time if Vegas is healthy both our teams as well as the rest of the west, goes through Vegas. As useless as advanced stats are in the regular season, they mean even less.

Missing Hill has definitely hurt them, but they haven't been without their top 2 goalies for most of the season. They're also not playing all that well recently. Not saying they aren't a good team still, but their playoffs last year the caught lightning in a bottle. Will they do it again this year? Maybe, but I'm not betting money on it.

 

[biturbo19]

Sometimes. Other times maybe not. Depends on his mood at the time.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

Top 1 winger since last week

 

[Nucks2001]

This year probably, but he's in a group with 5~ other guys who are basically interchangeable.

McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews are top 3, then Pettersson, Reinhart, Miller, Aho, Hughes, Eichel, Barkov, and Draisaitl are all interchangeable depending on who's playing hot.

Petterson is easily better than JT Miller, coming from a Canucks fan. Aho? Not there yet. Reinhart? Other than having a breakout season, he doesn’t sniff Pettersson. You’re disrespecting Drai, who should be higher than Pettersson and Brayden Point is better than half of the guys you mentioned.

 

[Hierso]

McDavid
MacKinnon
Matthews/Drai
Matthews/Drai

My top 4 is pretty much pensiled in, the 5th pick can go either way but i'd probably put Pettersson there. Barkov, Eichel & Hughes are pretty damn good too but i'd want to see more from Jack before i would put him at #5.

 

[Canuck Luck]

This season? No.

Because:

McDavid
MacKinnon
Draisaitl

Have always been better than him.

Outside of last season, Matthews has always been better than him.

And Hughes has been better than him this season.

Pettersson has not been as good this season as he was last season (outside of the past four games).

So I think he has an argument for top 5 when he's at his best, but this season the highest I could place him is 6th as of the beginning of January 2024.

Voted for "In the neighbourhood."

Matthews this season: 48 points in 38 games. On pace for 103-104 points
Pettersson this season: 57 points in 42 games. On pace for 111-112 points

This is before considering that Pettersson is better defensively. Pettersson is better than Mathews at this point. its been 1.5 years now. Cant rest on the past of 2 or more years ago.

Matthews is better defensively and obviously the best goal scorer in the world. Matthews is way better than Draisaitl, who has been average at best this season.

Since when has Matthews been nominated for a selke

Matthews is in the very top of the league in stripping pucks every season.

The top 3 C in the league are McDavid, MacKinnon and Matthews.

Want know a player thats always ahead of Matthews in takeaways? McDavid yet everyone thinks he's a liability on defense. So would you say McDavid is better than Matthews defensively?

 

[psycat]

He is contention for 5th(behind the obvious 3 and not so obvious Matthews) so I guess ill vote in the neighbourhood, but I mean could realistically see him ranked like 8-10 aswell without being upset about it.

 

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Matthews this season: 48 points in 38 games. On pace for 103-104 points
Pettersson this season: 57 points in 42 games. On pace for 111-112 points

This is before considering that Pettersson is better defensively. Pettersson is better than Mathews at this point. its been 1.5 years now. Cant rest on the past of 2 or more years ago.


Since when has Matthews been nominated for a selke

Want know a player thats always ahead of Matthews in takeaways? McDavid yet everyone thinks he's a liability on defense. So would you say McDavid is better than Matthews defensively?

Matthews has scored more goals since he entered the league than any other player in the history of the game. Best goalscorer in the world.

- 2 x Rocket Richard (about to win his 3rd Rocket in 4 seasons)
- Hart Trophy
- Ted Lindsay Trophy
- Calder
- 50 goals in 50 games

Pettersson

- Nothing
- Never won anything
- Not a top 5 C

Also, McDavid is not ahead of Matthews in take aways. Matthews has been at the top of the league for years in that department. You are talking absolutely gibberish with no substance at all the back that up.

 

[WTG]

Matthews has scored more goals since he entered the league than any other player in the history of the game. Best goalscorer in the world.

- 2 x Rocket Richard (about to win his 3rd Rocket in 4 seasons)
- Hart Trophy
- Ted Lindsay Trophy
- Calder
- 50 goals in 50 games

Pettersson

- Nothing
- Never won anything
- Not a top 5 C

Pettersson won a Calder.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

Petterson is easily better than JT Miller, coming from a Canucks fan. Aho? Not there yet. Reinhart? Other than having a breakout season, he doesn’t sniff Pettersson. You’re disrespecting Drai, who should be higher than Pettersson and Brayden Point is better than half of the guys you mentioned.

This season Miller has EASILY been superior at both ends of the ice. Want proof? Look who's playing C right now.

I love Petey and want him to be top 5 but this season its a no for me. His 12 points have come as a winger, and it's been ****ing spectacular and I don't really care but let's give the #1C his due and that's JT.

 

[34]

Pettersson won a Calder.

Ok cool, I stand corrected on that then. The least important though.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Matthews has scored more goals since he entered the league than any other player in the history of the game. Best goalscorer in the world.

- 2 x Rocket Richard (about to win his 3rd Rocket in 4 seasons)
- Hart Trophy
- Ted Lindsay Trophy
- Calder
- 50 goals in 50 games

Pettersson

- Nothing
- Never won anything

It takes a lot more to win hockey games than just scoring goals. If thats all the Leafs organization thinks matters, then it makes sense why they can seldom make it past the first round.

Dont count your eggs before they hatch on that 3rd rocket. I remember this time 2 years ago some Leafs fans had already anointed Jack Campbell the Vezina winner. Hopefully for y'all history doesn't repeat itself

Also LOL at the calder trophy listed under Matthews as an accomplishment yet Pettersson's calder means nothing

 

[WTG]

Ok cool, I stand corrected on that then. The least important though.

Also, Pettersson won playoff MVP in Sweden in his draft +1. Not an NHL award, but he did win something.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Not yet but he should be soon. He doesn’t surpass any of McDavid MacK Drai or AM. The 5th spot is one he is vying for but I’d still give the edge to guys who have been performing at this level for longer like Hughes or Barkov.

 

[34]

It takes a lot more to win hockey games than just scoring goals. If thats all the Leafs organization thinks matters, then it makes sense why they can seldom make it past the first round.

Also LOL at the calder trophy listed under Matthews as an accomplishment yet Pettersson's calder means nothing

that is nothing to get excited about. Come back when he wins multiple rockets. The truth is, he will never win a rocket ever. A Hart or a ted Lindsay. He is not a top five center in the league on top of that. Canucks fans are absolutely hilarious this season, your team has been in the basement for eight years, And now you are all acting like you have a Matthews or Connor McDavid on your team.

 

[Mrb1p]

Just outside.

McD
Sid
Mack
Drai
Hughes

Then its probably him or Auston.