Is Nikita Kucherov a Generational Talent? (Based on his NHL Career)

[Golden_Jet]

because there is no clear definition here

A couple of players every 20 years or so, after that your talking franchise players.

 

[Soul Assumption]

A couple of players every 20 years or so

Who decided this?

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Who decided this?

A generation is a decade IMO. 20 years is too wide a gap.

 

[benfranklin]

No in 2022 and still no today. Obviously depends how we define generational talent.

IMO, it is players who are leaps and bounds ahead of their piers vs great careers.

Orr
Gretzky
Lemieux
Jagr
Crosby
Ovechkin
McDavid

Malkin had the talent but injuries derailed him.

Makar currently has the best case to argue, but is more in the Lidstrom tier of all time great vs "generational".

Bedard and Celebrini are hard maybes

 

[Golden_Jet]

A generation is a decade IMO. 20 years is too wide a gap.

Disagree. A generation is the time from a parent having a kid, until the kid has a kid.
(Likely closer to 25 years, but went with 20.
I had 2 players in twenty years. so that’s like one in 10 years, in your case.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

We toss the term generational around to free and easy these days.

I commented earlier about this but now lets let the numbers do the talking

Kuch first year was 13/14

HE is 4th in pts overall since then

McDavid 655 games 988 pts
Crosby 808 games 937 pts
MacKinnon 796 games 908 pts
Kuch 729 games 882 pts

McDavid is the clear Generational talent of Kuch's era with Crosby being the Generational talent of the previous generation.

Let me put it another way

You have a draft year of

McDavid
Crosby
Mackinnon
Kuch
Patrick Kane
Alex O
Anze Kopitar
Steve Stamkos
Geno Malkin


How many seriously take Kuch over McDavid and Crosby?

For me, the term "Generational" goes to the guy you point at and go there and say "it is him"

Kuch is a great player but he is not a generational talent, in my opinion, part of being a generational talent is not just looking at what that player is doing but other players of his era.

Both McDavid and Crosby would be the ones going 1 and 2 in any draft in the list I posted. Nothing against Kuch but he is also helped by having a lot of good players on his team. Having a clear number 1 d man in Hedman, Number 1 goalie in Vis and a supporting cast that is and was pretty good.

Both McDavid and Crosby did a lot of damage with little or no support from the supporting cast the teams put together early in their career

Sure that scrub Draisaitl sucks.

Some of you, man.

 

[DrDangles]

Generational talents don't wait until they're 25 to be considered one of the best in the world, they're elite from their first shift onwards.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

No

MacKinnon isn’t generational either