Is Nikita Kucherov a Generational Talent? (Based on his NHL Career)

[jigglysquishy]

Yzerman was also not even close to being considered generational.

 

[DFC]

Yzerman was also not even close to being considered generational.

Right. I'm not making the case that Kucherov is either. I'm just saying he belongs a lot higher on the list than where that guy put him.

Yes, saying he's generational overrates Kucherov. But most people underrate him still.

 

[benfranklin]

Mcdavid and Crosby were called generational talents way before there Draft, no one has ever said Celebrini has the talent to be generational, Bedard is in my opinion very overhyped, and I'm not sure how you say Ovie wasn't generational from the beginning the guy was an absolute force his rookie season he scored 50 goals, how is that needing time to live upto the hype? Mcdavid very well probably would have hit 90+ points his rookie year if not for injuries. And no Makar is not generational, its not something you become over time, it happens from the moment you enter the league, where the players presence on a team alters the course of an entire franchise, like Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr and Crosby. And also Celebrini has never been mentioned in the same breath as the type of prospect as Bedard even whom I don't consider to be generational, yet alone Crosby or Mcdavid, once again you're revising history to support a false narative.


No that will not make him generational

Lol very ironic but the NHL radio guys today were talking about Makar and used the word "Generational" over and over.

Your definition is all over the place. By that you have to be a #1 pick to be considered "generational" and by day 1 you either have it or you dont.

A. Be called "generational" before the draft
B. Be a force in your rookie season.
C. Be a ppg+ your rookie season

You are completely wrong about Celebrini. He may not have been hyped as long as Bedard was due to playing NCAA over juniors, but dude is considered the complete player by every scout and on par with Bedard near his draft.

So Makar could win 10 Norris's, 10 Cups, and hes not generational because he wasnt hyped like McDavid or Crosby?

Rookie season - nearly a PPG and Calder, 7th in scoring missing 13 games
Sophmore season - PPG, 2nd in Norris voting, 5th in scoring missing 12 games
Third season - Norris, Cup, Conn Smythe, 2nd in scoring missing 5 games
4th season - PPG +, 3rd in Norris voting, 9th in scoring missing 22 games
5th season - PPG +, 3rd in Norris voting, 2nd in scoring missing 5 games
6th season - PPG +, currently tied for the league lead in scoring as a defenseman

He has a chance to pass Bourque for all time points as a dman. the only thing stopping him is retiring before it or injuries. Ill give you Orr and Lidstrom, but he is comfortably on pace to be #3 with an argument to take down one or both of them with enough team and individual hardware. You are drastically underestimating how great he is.

In a world where the third best defenseman we've ever seen isnt "generational", youre on drugs.

 

[authentic]

I'm not saying Yzerman wasn't great. But Kucherov should be viewed above him. He's just insanely dangerous.

Yzerman had 155 points playing for a bum team. Also had a few other seasons above 120, and then became one of the games elite two-way players in the second half of his career. Best case scenario Kucherov may have the slightest bit of an offensive advantage but I don’t believe he is a better overall player quite frankly.

Right. I'm not making the case that Kucherov is either. I'm just saying he belongs a lot higher on the list than where that guy put him.

Yes, saying he's generational overrates Kucherov. But most people underrate him still.

Saying he belongs above Yzerman is a testament to how overrated he is really, but who knows if he puts together a few more seasons like last year I could see the argument for it then.