Is McDavid Top 10 For You All Time Already? If Not How Much More Does He Have to do?

[Laveuglette]

For peak for sure he is, already. For career not yet. But it would be very surprising to see him retire tomorrow

 

[wetcoast]

Fair enough, I don’t go to that board

People should, if for nothing else to get an idea on how people rank players all time and deeper arguments as to why instead of saying yes he is.

 

[KevinRedkey]

To roll any given number 3 times in a row with a standard die, your chances are 1/216
To do the same with a 32-sided die, your ods are 1/32768

Hockey isn't as perfectly balanced as dice by any means, but the difference in winning a cup in a 6-team league vs a 32-team league is exponential. If your argument is based on elderly players winning cups - then you should stay away from Vegas, and get H&R block to do your taxes for you.

To be clear - There are valid reasons to say he's isn't top 10 yet. Stanely Cups are simply not one of them.

 

[wetcoast]

He didn't tilt the ice like others with a claim to the Big 4 and his 5 on 5 play, despite his video game numbers simply leave something to be desired IMO.

The stats are there his ESGF/ESGA and r-on R-off ratios just don't compare to the other 3 players.

 

[HolyHagelin]

No credible authority that I know of lists Barry Sanders as the GOAT running back. Not over players like Jim Brown and Walter Payton. He was great, no question....but his legacy is the same as Dan Marino's....both great players who have never won a championship.

I was a professional sportswriter for years. The GOAT rb argument is between barry and brown, period.

 

[JackSlater]

I said probably not but close before, I'd say he's in now. It's nice if he hangs around banging out elite seasons for a while but I'm not ranking career value but rather players. Have there been ten better players than McDavid in hockey history? I highly doubt it.

 

[Incognito]

Just in terms of individual achievements:

5 Art Ross
3 Hart
4 Lindsay
1 Rocket
1 Conn Smythe*

That’s easily a top 10 all-time trophy case.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

No credible authority that I know of lists Barry Sanders as the GOAT running back. Not over players like Jim Brown and Walter Payton. He was great, no question....but his legacy is the same as Dan Marino's....both great players who have never won a championship.

Payton over Sanders is crazy lmao

 

[FrankerC]

No, and he's not even close to top 10. He has 773 points for his career. There are close to 100 players that have over 1000 points.

TIL - Paul Coffey is better than Bobby Orr

 

[bobbyking]

with a game 7 win he's already top 5

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Is Bourque only a top-10 defenceman because he won a cup at age 40?

IDK where I rank McDavid, but a team acheivement certainly isn't a qualifier for an individual ranking.

This is about top 10 player not top 10 D man.

 

[Mohar Ikram]

Not yet. Top 20 maybe. Top 15 pushing it.

To be top 10. Win something for your team. Carry them.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

He didn't tilt the ice like others with a claim to the Big 4 and his 5 on 5 play, despite his video game numbers simply leave something to be desired IMO.

102 ev points. 96 ev in 60gp. 23 ev points in 23 po games in 91.etc. yeah guy sucked hard ass

 

[Hockeyholic]

Last night wasn't a good look on him.

He needs to win cups to.get into top 5 discussion