Is Mcdavid the greatest Athlete in the big 4 Sports since Lebron James?

[Tad Mikowsky]

Being born tall is the trait of a good athlete for North Americans? Lmao.

I know this is hard to grasp, but in some sports height helps quite a bit.

 

[me2]

Honestly was just going through major sports

I think if you add in Football and Cricket (huge sports in Africa/Europe/SA and Asia)

McDavid is one of the 4.5 guys to challenge for GOAT in the sport

LeBron
McDavid
Messi
Cr7 (he did challenge but now isn't there got old and couldn't keep it up. Still my favourite tho)
Virat Kohli

He's in a rare group of athletes ever

Big fish in a tiny pond

 

[sabresfan129103]

This is a good question. He might be. I'm trying to think who else in the other 4 sports is as dominate as he is in hockey and I can't really think of anyone. Maybe over the next couple of years we'll see Zion take up that mantle in the NBA.

 

[ItWasJustified]

I know this is hard to grasp, but in some sports height helps quite a bit.

Height doesn't make you a good athlete though.

 

[jigglysquishy]

No. He isn’t a big name. That’s what this thread is asking right?

Bryce Harper is a name everyone knows.
Giannis Antetokounmpo is a name everyone knows.
Patrick Mahomes is a name everyone knows.
Idk if everyone knows McDavid. You should, he is the most talented hockey player to be drafted since 2005 by a pretty large margin. But they don’t.

I've never heard of these guys.

Outside Lebron and Brady I don't think any NA athlete is a true everyone knows it name.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

He’s up there. I’d probably go Messi. If Edmonton wins a few championships on McDavids back it would make this a more reasonable claim to say McDavid is the most talented/dominate in sports. For sure vs his peers in hockey he’s the best even without having won a single Cup. I just can’t see that argument without any championships/team success to bookend his individual accomplishments to say he’s the best across pro sports. Claiming such I think would be both ignorant and bias as we are on a hockey dominant site.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Lebron is not close to being the GOAT lol.. and he might even be the 2nd best but the gap is just too big MJ just too good

He’s talking about since he was drafted. That’s why nobody is saying Gretzky, Jordan etc

 

[Transplanted Caper]

Interesting question, Hard to think of anyone in the NA Big Four sports who really compare. I think he's clearly the best hockey player in the world, and has been for some time. The only reason he doesn't have more hardware is voter fatigue and narrative-happy voting. It's obviously hard to compare a defensive lineman who may dominate his role to a hockey centre, but it's hard to think of anyone since Lebron who really matches McDavid's clear gap between himself and the rest of the sport. Maybe Shohei Ohtani if only because of his uniqueness.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

I've never heard of these guys.

Outside Lebron and Brady I don't think any NA athlete is a true everyone knows it name.

Everyone knows Patrick mahomes. Get real. Much more common name among sports fans.

 

[jigglysquishy]

Everyone knows Patrick mahomes. Get real. Much more common name among sports fans.

Never heard of him before this thread.

I watch zero NFL or NBA or MLB

 

[Melrose Munch]

Never heard of him before this thread.

I watch zero NFL or NBA or MLB

I'm sure...

 

[Melrose Munch]

And they are like 2.10 as I said I am not even sure I personally know (of) a single person that is 2 meters(210cm is circus territory and I am not sure I ever saw someone that tall in person) , even if I coun't people in the very much outer circle of my life. Professional basketball got a miniscule talentpool and the sport sucks.

It might very well be the largest sport in NA for all I know(I don't live there) but it's still a sport with a low talent pool per default. If you are born above a certain height chances are good, heck even great, you make the NBA if you practice basketball. Of course that doesn't mean they are all not talented or that they don't train but compared to other professional sports it's just a smaller(and shorter) pool to draw from, hence makes it less impressive in my eyes.

There is, however, zero chance there are 1 billion active basketball players in the world it's such a mindnumbingly out of touch with reality statement that I had to rant on it. And even then if I am somehow living in a total different reality the vast majority of these 1 billion players are not close to 2 meters tall so they are irrelevant.

Would never watch sports in which there is a point scored everytime one bothers to pay attention(Basketball, Handball, Baseball etc) it's for people with zero attentionspan and the sports are very boring to me.

Not necessarily. It depends on the position. Same reason why you don't see short defensemen that often.

You should watch more basketball. The two best players currently in the NBA are from Greece and Slovenia.

I’m an NBA fan. Your post doesn’t make any sense at all. There are tons of non-American players in the NBA doing great. Two historic players, even.

EDIT: lol and I wasn’t even referring to defending MVP Nikola Jokic. He’s from Serbia.



Basketball is HUGE. It is not niche in any way, shape or form. It gets better ratings than baseball. Three years in a row.

Source: I work at a casino and handle sports programming.

That being said, I agree that the NHL isn’t even the fourth biggest sport anymore. UFC has definitely passed it.

But why does HFBoards not see the NBA as the clear #2 sport in NA like it is? I don’t get it.

Just 2 or 3 posters.

 

[GrizzGreen]

McDavid is incredible, very unfortunate that he's on a GARBAGE team

Uh no that would be Messi

the thread said "sport"

sarcasm aside, it does literally say in the big 4

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

McDavid is incredible, very unfortunate that he's on a GARBAGE team


the thread said "sport"

sarcasm aside, it does literally say in the big 4

Yeah, the big 4:

Soccer
Hockey
Rugby Union
Water Polo

 

[GrizzGreen]

Yeah, the big 4:

Soccer
Hockey
Rugby Union
Water Polo

based. Carry on.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

hes crazy gud

 

[Ben White]

There's no argument for McDavid over Gretzky. If McDavid wins the Hart and Ross this year

After 8 years
Gretzky
7 Art Ross (+1 first place tie)
8 Harts
Conn Smythe
3 Cups
4x leading playoffs in scoring

McDavid
5 Art Ross (+2 2nd place)
3 Hart
1x leading playoffs in scoring

I think it will be difficult for McDavid to surpass either Mario or Gretz. Their hockey iq was superior while McDavid is relying more on his physical tools. Hard to imagine McDavid with similar physical obstacles coming back like Lemieux did in 2002 dominating at that age and in that form. I think he can challenge Orr for #3 though (yeah I know a lot of people have Orr ahead of Mario).

What I basically mean is that McDavid is sort of doomed to age a lesser player compared to those guys while Orr had a shortened career anyway.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Messi is further ahead since he's at the tail end of his career

McDavid is on a very similar track.

5 rosses + 4 lindsays + 3 harts by 26 is absurd

Messi was neck and neck with CR7 until 2019 or 2020. He pulled ahead now but it was very close

McDavid when he's 35 likely is challenging Gretzky for all time GOAT like Messi is now to Pele

Maybe McDavid takes another step but his current level is not enough to challenge Gretzky. Messi IS the Gretzky of football, easily ahead of McDavid

 

[Vasilevskiy]

I don’t really watch soccer but this had me hooked. That looks to me like the best athlete ever.

2010-2012 was his prime and every game was a masterpiece... That video is most about goals and tricks but his vision is just as good. The amount of unreal assists he has over his career is outstanding. I doubt very much I will ever see a player as good as him.

 

[JungleBeat]

Yes, Gretzky played against part-time plumbers and mechanics.

 

[quackquackquack]

McDavid is generationally skilled but please he's not the "athlete" Lebron was. Lebron was basically a cartoon in real life.

 

[Dr Beinfest]

so since 03?

Brady, Manning, Favre, Brees

Lebron, Kobe, Curry, Durant

McDavid, Crosby, Ovie, Kane

Pujols, ARod, Kershaw, Trout

Holy wrong Packer. Favre since 03?? Brett Favre, the 3x MVP in the 90s who failed to win anything else, and laughing stocked himself out of the game? Dude belongs absolutely nowhere on any list of top 4 players from the NFL since 2003.

 

[amnesiac]

Holy wrong Packer. Favre since 03?? Brett Favre, the 3x MVP in the 90s who failed to win anything else, and laughing stocked himself out of the game? Dude belongs absolutely nowhere on any list of top 4 players from the NFL since 2003.

oops, brain fart! lol

 

[95snipes]

Trout is already tied for second most MVPs and he will win another unless Ohtani keeps it up.

The only player in head of Trout is a steroid user.

Aside from Trout’s 3 MVPs, he came top 5 an additional 6 times.

There’s more stats in baseball but Trout has led in practically everything his entire career. Similar to McDavid, however I’d put McDavid in a class of Crosby, while Trout is pretty much a lock for top 5 player ever.

I follow baseball closely, second to only hockey, and I strongly disagree with putting Trout on McDavid's level, let alone above McDavid. Trout is close to Crosby I'd say. McDavid is clearly more dominant than both.

First of all, baseball has 2 MVP awards. If hockey had a 'Western Conference' MVP, then McDavid would have 4 MVPs (and likely 5 after this season).

Trout has never led the AL (let alone the MLB) in either home runs or average. He's just consistently very very good and amongst the leaders. Which is valuable in a sport as streaky as baseball is and his consistency is what makes Trout so good. But his dominance is just not on the same level as McDavid's who's running laps around the rest of the NHL seemingly each and every year.

 

[authentic]

2010-2012 was his prime and every game was a masterpiece... That video is most about goals and tricks but his vision is just as good. The amount of unreal assists he has over his career is outstanding. I doubt very much I will ever see a player as good as him.

Yeah I saw he had well over a goal a game in some of those years which is insane in soccer more so than hockey is it not?