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Simmonds is one of my favorite players. The problem, it solves nothing at center, where we have a need.
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Simmonds is one of my favorite players. The problem, it solves nothing at center, where we have a need.
hockeyheadlines
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Where is it reported MT has a problem with Patches, other than Patches not producing or being more involved in the game?
TheNewEra
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its on sportsnet atm so going based off that
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/headlines-pacioretty-not-block-despite-friction-therrien/
hockeyheadlines
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There are three things Canadiens can do to help out Max.
1. Take away the burden of the C and move it to someone else.
2. If the problem is the coach, fire him.
3. Trade the player. (probably a big mistake)
1. Take away the burden of the C and move it to someone else.
2. If the problem is the coach, fire him.
3. Trade the player. (probably a big mistake)
Ginu
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Ive been saying from the start that he was the wrong choice for captain. He's always been too hard on himself and not been able to handle pressure because of pressure he puts on himself. Giving him the captaincy as well was the wrong decision. Now trading him might be the only option. Please get a center.
Maybe to Anaheim for Rakell and a young D. Send his baby Desharnais with him.
Maybe to Anaheim for Rakell and a young D. Send his baby Desharnais with him.
Got it, thanks. Friction due to lack of production, if that is the issue, is not a headline.
Before moving Pacioretty the GM should first try a new coach.
With Gallant on the market right now, it's a perfect time as GG knows the team, the city, the media.
If they move Patches, then Panarin would be the best option, IMO.
Trading Max for a C doesn't solve anything. It just shuffles the hole to the wing from the centre.
With Gallant on the market right now, it's a perfect time as GG knows the team, the city, the media.
If they move Patches, then Panarin would be the best option, IMO.
Trading Max for a C doesn't solve anything. It just shuffles the hole to the wing from the centre.
I have been clamoring for a Pacioretty trade for 2 seasons, he is one of the most overrated players in the league, his cap-hit and goal production totally blind people. He is a complimentary offensive player, scores largely off the rush, rarely generates any chances on his own and may have some of the worst hockey sense I have ever seen. His size, skating and shot alone is what has helped him produce over the years, but he is not a guy you want in the trenches.
I think a trade to the Rangers would make sense here, his speed would fit their style of play, he grew up a fan and they have the right assets to make an in-season hockey trade.
My suggestion would be Nash and Lindberg for Pacioretty and Desharnais.
I think a trade to the Rangers would make sense here, his speed would fit their style of play, he grew up a fan and they have the right assets to make an in-season hockey trade.
My suggestion would be Nash and Lindberg for Pacioretty and Desharnais.
hockeyheadlines
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This time of the season, there's not much else available. Before you mention Hartley, that would be more of the same as Therrien. Maybe Bob's better with youngsters though, I don't know.
Hire Gallant and hire a translator.
TheNewEra
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question from an outside perspective, the Patches-MT friction seems like an annual issue, is it due to production every year?
hockeyheadlines
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Have a look at Pacioretty's numbers and you'll see it has nothing to do with production. I think Canadiens upper management need to yank on somebody's chain, just to stir it up a bit.
I think it's sad that Habs fans are more than happy to throw Pacioretty under the bus, but are adamant that Therrien isn't a problem... lol
I think the rest of the league can see the actual problem in Montreal, and it's not on the bench.. it's behind it, but if the Habs are going to be stupid enough to dismantle their team just to protect their out dated and over rated coach, then I'm guessing the other 30 teams will be more than happy to reap the benefits and take advantage.
I think the rest of the league can see the actual problem in Montreal, and it's not on the bench.. it's behind it, but if the Habs are going to be stupid enough to dismantle their team just to protect their out dated and over rated coach, then I'm guessing the other 30 teams will be more than happy to reap the benefits and take advantage.
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I do believe this should be done first and as soon as possible. If then it doesn't give Patches a spark than think about trading him but not for the nickle and dimes posted in this thread.
Viqsi
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Wait. What?
The Habs organization sure seems happy with Therrien (G-d only knows why), but I have yet to see the Habs fan that doesn't want him gone. I'm sure they exist - there's crazies in every fanbase - but I haven't seen them personally.
There's plenty of folks who are trying to come up with ideas that presume Therrien is staying, but that's more out of resigned acknowledgement that that's the most likely outcome, not out of a conviction that he should stay.
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We all know what perception does a players value. About the only saving grace is the fact he is on a really cap friendly contract and only has this year and next.
How many first line left wingers are at a decent age, decent cap hit, still under contract for a few years left and need a change of scenery?
My guess not many so unless you go for another positional player MB is not going to get a lot of value.
I love how people trash Pacioretty when he would be tied for the scoring lead on their team.
Think about that for a moment. The guy is having such a horrid and poor season, but he would be leading the Avs, offensively. So, if he has had a horrible start, just imagine what is going to happen when he does, as he usually does, wake up. The year he scored 39 goals he had less than 5 in the first 20 games.
So, the Habs do not need to trade him. The Habs need fans who will not try to run any player "struggling" after 25 games out of town. The stupidity of some hockey fans is mind-boggling.
Wait. What?
The Habs organization sure seems happy with Therrien (G-d only knows why), but I have yet to see the Habs fan that doesn't want him gone. I'm sure they exist - there's crazies in every fanbase - but I haven't seen them personally.
There's plenty of folks who are trying to come up with ideas that presume Therrien is staying, but that's more out of resigned acknowledgement that that's the most likely outcome, not out of a conviction that he should stay.
Go on the Habs boards.
It's scary.
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I think this is all getting ridiculous. Sure, Pacioretty is not quite where he should be but we're only 24 games into the season and 1 point out of 1st overall. He's on a great contract that is not hurting us whatsoever. A good streak and he's right back on a 60pts pace. I seriously do not get where all the panic is coming from.
The Habs have some issues to solve, Patches is hardly one.
The Habs have some issues to solve, Patches is hardly one.
Avs44
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I was not trashing Pacioretty, I was making an observation that a lot of your fans seem to agree with (a horrendously bad game). Get over yourself.
And yeah, I'm sure if you moved Pacioretty to the second lowest scoring team in the league his numbers could not possibly drop. Obviously all players' numbers are completely independent of their team, its success, their linesmates, and how they are performing
Stupidity indeed.
