Is Leon Draisaitl on pace to be the best non-“big six” nation hockey player ever?

[wetcoast]

More to hockey than points. Basing an argument purely on points when comparing players or careers is a rudimentary approach that shows little understanding of how players contribute to a full 200’ game.
Player X is not better than player Y strictly because X puts up more points.

Sure that's a fair point and I love 2 way players but at some point Draisatl just has so much more offense than say Kopitar and even Stastny.

I love those 2 guys but seriously drai is living rent free here.

 

[Three On Zero]

Sure that's a fair point and I love 2 way players but at some point Draisatl just has so much more offense than say Kopitar and even Stastny.

I love those 2 guys but seriously drai is living rent free here.

Again, more to hockey than offense.

 

[wetcoast]

Again, more to hockey than offense.

Sure there is but you still haven't made a very compelling point here.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Haha, uhh okay? Oiler fans will happily keep the 'most overrated player' on the team. What a weak ass attempt of an insult. Continue making baseless narratives and nonsense hyperboles though like Chara doing the same thing on this team because of McDavid

I hope you keep him too. Terrible defensively. Cost you the series along with Skinner. If you think Bouchard is better than Chara then LOL.

 

[McAsuno]

I hope you keep him too. Terrible defensively. Cost you the series along with Skinner. If you think Bouchard is better than Chara then LOL.

Not only do you make nonsense false narratives, you also put words in peoples mouths that they don't say either. Talk about real clown behavior. Amazing job

 

[Three On Zero]

Sure there is but you still haven't made a very compelling point here.

Not my job to make a compelling argument, the players did that with their careers

 

[PuckG]

Not my job to make a compelling argument, the players did that with their careers

We know. None of us expect anything objective now. You don’t ever make an argument let alone a compelling one. It’s usually just “Drai bad because 5 other players on ice.”

“Hughes not bad because playing 1 vs 6.”

 

[Three On Zero]

I hope you keep him too. Terrible defensively. Cost you the series along with Skinner. If you think Bouchard is better than Chara then LOL.

Complete no show when it mattered the most in his career so far.

 

[MessierII]

I hope you keep him too. Terrible defensively. Cost you the series along with Skinner. If you think Bouchard is better than Chara then LOL.

The oilers literally gave up less goals than the panthers.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Not the best but top 20 for sure, maybe even top 10.

 

[PuckG]

Complete no show when it mattered the most in his career so far.
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Now do the almost any Canucks player including Hughes & EP in the second round and after having the series lead. Talk about no shows.

The oilers literally gave up less goals than the panthers.

Don’t give him facts. They don’t apply to him or his teams.

 

[Three On Zero]

Now do the almost any Canucks player including Hughes & EP in the second round and after having the series lead. Talk about no shows.

Don’t give him facts. They don’t apply to him or his teams.

Is Leon Draisaitl on pace to be the best non-“big six” nation hockey player ever?

Weird, I don’t see anywhere in the thread title where it pertains to what the Canucks and or EP/Hughes did or didn’t do.

 

[PuckG]

Is Leon Draisaitl on pace to be the best non-“big six” nation hockey player ever?

Weird, I don’t see anywhere in the thread title where it pertains to what the Canucks and or EP/Hughes did or didn’t do.

And?

It’s a hockey related response. You’ll be okay.

 

[Three On Zero]

And?

It’s a hockey related response. You’ll be okay.

Good coping mechanism I guess, unfortunately neither did worse than Draisiatl in the finals

But anyways, back to the actual topic of the thread.

 

[PuckG]

Good coping mechanism I guess, unfortunately neither did worse than Draisiatl in the finals

But anyways, back to the actual topic of the thread.

“If I ignore everything Draisaitl has done in the playoffs and hone in on the one round the Oilers lost this season to the Stanley Cup Champs while injured, then Draisaitl = bad.”

Talk about coping.

 

[Duke74]

Complete no show when it mattered the most in his career so far.
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How convenient to completely omit the broken finger and broken ribs that he played throughout that entire series. Context matters.

Not to mention your previous statements that "there's more to hockey than offence" and yet you post his offensive statistics. Interesting logic.

 

[PuckG]

How convenient to completely omit the broken finger and broken ribs that he played throughout that entire series. Context matters.

Not to mention your previous statements that "there's more to hockey than offence" and yet you post his offensive statistics. Interesting logic.

“Stats work for me when I feel like it, but not for you ever.”

“Injuries apply to us, not to you.”

The inconsistency is painful to see. Not to mention how often we hear about “DeMKo’s/EP injuries” and how they win in 4 games if they played. Some posters genuinely believe their hypotheticals more than they believe real life.

 

[Three On Zero]

How convenient to completely omit the broken finger and broken ribs that he played throughout that entire series. Context matters.

Not to mention your previous statements that "there's more to hockey than offence" and yet you post his offensive statistics. Interesting logic.

The elusive broken finger, never has a player ever endured an injury of such magnitude.

“If I ignore everything Draisaitl has done in the playoffs and hone in on the one round the Oilers lost this season to the Stanley Cup Champs while injured, then Draisaitl = bad.”

Talk about coping.

The conversations about the top players and how they’ve achieved greatness in the early rounds is often talked about, oh wait.

 

[PuckG]

The elusive broken finger, never has a player ever endured an injury of such magnitude.


The conversations about the top players and how they’ve achieved greatness in the early rounds is often talked about, oh wait.

Forget the broken ribs, it’s just a finger. What’s the point of playing any games before the finals, amirite?

Once again, your inconsistency and how disingenuous your hockey posts are is painful to read, but blatantly obvious to everyone.

You continuing to ignore anything that doesn’t suit your feelings is par for the course.

Refer to above posts if you’re unsure of what is being referred to.

 

[wetcoast]

Complete no show when it mattered the most in his career so far.
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Sure complete bust who just couldn't win the Conn Smythe with that broken finger and rib issue eh?

Like I said he's living rent free inside your head and it really shows.

 

[Three On Zero]

Forget the broken ribs, it’s just a finger. What’s the point of playing any games before the finals, amirite?

Once again, your inconsistency and how disingenuous you are is painful to read, but blatantly obvious to everyone.

You continuing to ignore anything that doesn’t suit your feelings is par for the course.

Refer to above posts if you’re unsure of what is being referred to.

It’ll be ok no need to get upset, people are allowed to have different opinions on a hockey forum

 

[PuckG]

It’ll be ok no need to get upset, people are allowed to have different opinions on a hockey forum

Main difference is you seem to think that your opinion/feelings supersedes anything factual or objective. Hence the responses like that one. Once again - par for the course.

 

[Duke74]

The elusive broken finger, never has a player ever endured an injury of such magnitude.


The conversations about the top players and how they’ve achieved greatness in the early rounds is often talked about, oh wait.

Notwithstanding the rib injury, which you neglected to address, you do realize that hockey players use their fingers to play the game, right? It affects the way you grip your stick, pass, and shoot. Let us know if there’s anything else we can explain to you about this wonderful sport.

 

[Three On Zero]

Notwithstanding the rib injury, which you neglected to address, you do realize that hockey players use their fingers to play the game, right? It affects the way you grip your stick, pass, and shoot. Let us know if there’s anything else we can explain to you about this wonderful sport.

Both fairly insignificant injuries when you factor in what hockey players usually endure during playoffs.

Main difference is you seem to think that your opinion/feelings supersedes anything factual or objective. Hence the responses like that one. Once again - par for the course.

Everything will be ok, people are allowed to have differing opinions

 

[PuckG]

Both fairly insignificant injuries when you factor in what hockey players usually endure during playoffs.

That’s certainly an argument. “Broken ribs in a heavy contact sport is an insignificant injury,” tell us enough about where your hockey knowledge is at.

Par for the course.