The league has clear top 4 with mcdavid mackinnon Draisaitl and Kucherov over the last 10 yearsDrai has at least been in the top 5 for all those years though, and he's arguably the best playoff performer in the league
The league has clear top 4 with mcdavid mackinnon Draisaitl and Kucherov over the last 10 yearsDrai has at least been in the top 5 for all those years though, and he's arguably the best playoff performer in the league
The league has clear top 4 with mcdavid mackinnon Draisaitl and Kucherov over the last 10 years
Are scoring levels the same?
When I look at NHL League Averages | Hockey-Reference.com
The comparable recent years are 2019/2020 and 2018/19. A 60 goal year in this scoring environment seems significant.
Please someone correct me if I’m off base here
I can only speak for myself but I wasn’t claiming this was the most impressive goal scoring season, however it very much seems on par with the best goal scoring years in recent years when adjusted for the scoring environment. If anything it would appear to strengthen his Hart trophy case.It’s down slightly but we can adjust for that. 60 this year in a 2.99 GPG environment would still be behind Matthews’ 69 last year in a 3.08 GPG environment (3.08/2.99 x60= 62), slightly behind McDavid’s 64 in a 3.14 GPG environment (3.14/2.99 x60 = 63), and slightly ahead of Pasta’s 62 the same year. Matthews’ 60 in ‘22 would be behind (3.11/2.99 x 60= 62), but still better per game (60/73 x82= 67). Matthews’ pace (41/52 x82 = 65) in the Covid shortened season was also better (2.90/2.99 x 60 = 58). Even in 19-20, a similar scoring environment, Ovechkin was on pace for 58 before Covid shut the season down. It really doesn’t stand out from the other top goalscoring seasons the past 5 years before this one.
And if we look at the 5th place and 10th place goalscorers, we see that he doesn’t have a bigger lead over his peers than those other seasons, other than the top guys
Currently he’s out scoring 10th place by 53%
Last year, Matthews outscored 10th place by 57%
22-23, McDavid outscored 10th place by 52%
21-22, Matthews outscored 10th place by 43%
20-21, Matthews outscored 10th place by 58%
19-20, Ovechkin and Pasta outscored 10th place by 41%
It’s a very good goal scoring year, and we’ve had a number of strong goalscoring years recently that he fits in with, but it’s not better than those years just because no one else is having a very good goal scoring year. It’s a little like the 2010s for Ovechkin. He was having some strong goalscoring years but his competition was pretty weak which makes them look better than they were if we were only to compare him to the 2nd place finishers.
Ya moved goalposts and you’re still wrong.Do you watch hockey? No one has Draisaitl top 3 hockey player in the nhl ever. All the hockey minds, Sports outlets, writers etc… It’s always Mcdavid, Mackinnon and whoever else is the flavour of the day for number 3. It’s not even debatable.
Draisaitl won the Hart trophy in 2020.Ya moved goalposts and you’re still wrong.
It's interesting how close those top-4 scorers are of late. In each guy's past 82 regular season games:
133 points -- Kucherov
127 points -- MacKinnon
126 points -- MacDavid
120 points -- Draisaitl
(Not to belabor the empty-net thing, but since Kucherov and MacKinnon get way more of those than McDavid / Drai, I suspect if you remove EN points from the above list, all four are almost even.)
Cant say ive seen to much of oilers, but i am thinking its mental and motivational, this is pure speculation, as with other people we can only guess, but has he come to a realisation that with his current envirment he would not win? One Interview after 4 nations seem to point in that direction.This is also with McDavid being visibly injured for a decent chunk of this time. What I want to know is, does he still look like he’s not 100% lately or is he beginning to look like his old self again? I haven’t caught an Oilers game in a while.
If you have a link with Connor McDavid saying any of that.. please post it.Cant say ive seen to much of oilers, but i am thinking its mental and motivational, this is pure speculation, as with other people we can only guess, but has he come to a realisation that with his current envirment he would not win? One Interview after 4 nations seem to point in that direction.
I can only speak for myself but I wasn’t claiming this was the most impressive goal scoring season, however it very much seems on par with the best goal scoring years in recent years when adjusted for the scoring environment. If anything it would appear to strengthen his Hart trophy case.
As opposed to Matthews and company who have always known they can't win. 8 play offs don't lie.Cant say ive seen to much of oilers, but i am thinking its mental and motivational, this is pure speculation, as with other people we can only guess, but has he come to a realisation that with his current envirment he would not win? One Interview after 4 nations seem to point in that direction.
The trophy belongs to Connor Hellebuyck
He still looks off.This is also with McDavid being visibly injured for a decent chunk of this time. What I want to know is, does he still look like he’s not 100% lately or is he beginning to look like his old self again? I haven’t caught an Oilers game in a while.
He still looks off.
Perry is outscoring McDavid at 5v5 since the middle of January. Drai has double his 5v5 points since the New Year. It's basically been a one man show for awhile.