Is Kucherov on Jagr's level?

[avocadosmoothie]

So you asserted something but won't back it up and expect to be taken seriously?

Good luck with that.

You don't even have any evidence to support your own position, unfortunately. No matter how you look at it, it seems that your own assertion is weaker than you'd like to believe.

 

[dgibb10]

Of Longevity? Of course not.

In terms of peak? 100%

 

[jalapenoWithAnH]

I find it interesting how nobody can provide any proof to the contrary.

That's like me saying flying spaghetti monster exists and that I find it interesting that nobody can provide any proof to the contrary.

 

[avocadosmoothie]

That's like me saying flying spaghetti monster exists and that I find it interesting that nobody can provide any proof to the contrary.

incorrect. it's a common tactic on message boards to play pretend lawyer and minimize something that's obviously not going to be verified when it suits you, as if an overwhelming number of posts on any forum contains a link or verifiable source. the fact is that you have nothing to suggest otherwise, we both know it, and for the purposes of this board, my assertion is just as valid as yours

 

[13 Black]

Prime for prime i take Jagr 10 out of 10 times. Nothing against Kucherov he's a fantastic player and one of the best of the modern era but prime Jagr was an absolute horse. His puck possession and protection skills were second to none. Very few could keep an offensive cycle going forever like Jagr did.

 

[wetcoast]

That's like me saying flying spaghetti monster exists and that I find it interesting that nobody can provide any proof to the contrary.

The guy is trolling and hot being serious, guess it's a summer vacation for kids somewhere.

 

[avocadosmoothie]

The guy is trolling and hot being serious, guess it's a summer vacation for kids somewhere.

all you had to do is type 15 words to disprove what I said. I wonder why you keep posting but still haven't?

 

[jalapenoWithAnH]

incorrect. it's a common tactic on message boards to play pretend lawyer and minimize something that's obviously not going to be verified when it suits you, as if an overwhelming number of posts on any forum contains a link or verifiable source. the fact is that you have nothing to suggest otherwise, we both know it, and for the purposes of this board, my assertion is just as valid as yours

You assertion is just as valid as an unverifiable opinion as another unverifiable opinion, yes.

Not a fact though.

 

[Rschmitz]

Prime for prime i take Jagr 10 out of 10 times. Nothing against Kucherov he's a fantastic player and one of the best of the modern era but prime Jagr was an absolute horse. His puck possession and protection skills were second to none. Very few could keep an offensive cycle going forever like Jagr did.

Each player has their elite skill set, Kucherov is one of the best cerebral and creative players in the modern era.

The thing with Jagr is that he was the clear cut best player in the league for a few years while Kucherov has had stiff competition, which influences peoples perception of the two.

 

[avocadosmoothie]

You assertion is just as valid as an unverifiable opinion as another unverifiable opinion, yes.

Not a fact though.

I do know it to be a fact.

 

[jalapenoWithAnH]

I do know it to be a fact.

I'm sure you do bud. The same way some people "know" earth is flat.

 

[avocadosmoothie]

I'm sure you do bud. The same way some people "know" earth is flat.

Incorrect, not the same way. all you had to do is type 15 words to disprove what I said. I wonder why you keep posting but still haven't?

 

[jalapenoWithAnH]

Incorrect, not the same way. all you had to do is type 15 words to disprove what I said. I wonder why you keep posting but still haven't?

In my mind it is a fact that it's not a fact in your mind. Curious how you haven't proven it wrong yet when all you had to do was write 10 words

 

[avocadosmoothie]

In my mind it is a fact that it's not a fact in your mind. Curious how you haven't proven it wrong yet when all you had to do was write 10 words

weird how you've been reduced to mimicking my logic instead of justifying yourself. it's almost as if you have no explanation to give

 

[jalapenoWithAnH]

weird how you've been reduced to mimicking my logic instead of justifying yourself. it's almost as if you have no explanation to give

It is a fact in my mind that you are wrong.

 

[avocadosmoothie]

It is a fact in my mind that you are wrong.

why not share your reasoning and convert me?

 

[BHD]

You need to consider the era Jagr played in as well.

 

[Fantomas]

to say Jagr was a passenger is insane.

I didn't say Jagr was a passenger. I never said he was bad in those playoffs. I said that he rode Lemieux's coattails.

Which he did. When Jagr was placed in the position to lead the team himself, he faltered.

My Best - Fantomas

 

[Gurn]

Yes Kucherov is on Jagr's level.

In Jagr's defense, he is 53 years old.

 

[eXile3]

I didn't say Jagr was a passenger. I never said he was bad in those playoffs. I said that he rode Lemieux's coattails.

Which he did. When Jagr was placed in the position to lead the team himself, he faltered.

My Best - Fantomas

He won an Art Ross with Jan Hrdina as his center. He carried some absolutely awful Pens teams to the playoffs. He did more than ride Lemieux’s coattails.

 

[centipede2233]

and this was jags at 33…

 

[frisco]

2026 Kuch could be insane. Love that he only takes 6 days off a year.

Probably should have saved some of those days off for the off-season instead of vs. Florida in the first round...

My Best-Carey

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

You need to consider the era Jagr played in as well.

He played much of his career in the dead puck era. And he was built for it. Impossible to knock off the puck.

Kucherov's an amazing player but Jagr's definitively better. His goalscoring alone wins the case for him. This isn't close. Kucherov is a few tiers lower. Yzerman and Sakic were better than Kucherov.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Jagr's that one guy with 5 Ross trophies and 1900+ career points, right?

No Kucherov is not on that level.

 

[bert]

Hey Needs like 8 more seasons averaging over a ppg. And 2 more art ross trophies. So probably not.