Is king Karl defying makars premature generational label?

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Seeing how Karlsson is outperforming his counterparts with body parts that doesn't even belong to him in his mid 30s must raise this question. I know Canadians have been waiting long to have their defenseman but is that a reason to make someone out to something they're not? Don't get me wrong makar is GOOD. He's as good as king Karl is after 20 injuries and on the wrong side of the career while he don't get to feed or any top players like others...

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[Great Makohead Shork]

Agreed. Colorado should trade Makar for Karl immediately, so they know what having a real generational talent is like. We'll even throw in Vlasic. No extra charge.

 

[Ginger Papa]

Seeing how Karlsson is outperforming his counterparts with body parts that doesn't even belong to him in his mid 30s must raise this question. I know Canadians have been waiting long to have their defenseman but is that a reason to make someone out to something they're not? Don't get me wrong makar is GOOD. He's as good as king Karl is after 20 injuries and on the wrong side of the career while he don't get to feed or any top players like others...

I have to be honest, your Post is somewhat confusing & it took me a few read through’s to get what I think is an adequate understanding.

I personally think that Makar is indeed well on the way to being a Generational Talent & hope his health allows him to reach his potential & play at his peak for many many years.

As for Karlsson, although I’m not really a Sharks fan, I always cheer for players to come back & Erik seems to be having a renaissance Season, which is awesome to see. One of the most exciting & entertaining players over the last decade until injuries hampered his skating & personal tragedy likely affected him emotionally.

I hope Karlsson continues his amazing play & we get more glimpses of his prior greatness.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

if you combined Fox and Makar into one being, Karlsson is what you would have.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

The best threads on all of HF come from the 15 game sample size conclusions. EK has a career shooting percentage of 6.7% and never once in his career has he shot above 8.7%.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and make the assumption that 10 goals in 18 games, on 55 shots for an 18.2% shooting percentage are not sustainable.


Great to see him have a nice little resurgence though. Good chance het gets 60+ points this year and may score 20 goals.

 

[TheBeard]

I’m starting to realize the best way to compare players’ seasons is not by what they do on the ice but how many different threads are made about each.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

I wouldn't call Makar generational. That title is reserved for the proven goats of hockey.

 

[Super Hans]

Nice to see Henrik Lundqvist abdicated the throne and let Karlsson take over as the King of Overly-Handsome Swedish Men With No Rings.

 

[Buck Naked]

The best threads on all of HF come from the 15 game sample size conclusions.

Seem to remember the same stuff after the playoffs this past summer. Many people yelled "small sample size!!!", Colorado fans yelled "Best since ORR!"

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Seem to remember the same stuff after the playoffs this past summer. Many people yelled "small sample size!!!", Colorado fans yelled "Best since ORR!"

To be fair a bunch of non Avs fans and the media were all in on the Makar is the best since Orr hypetrain.

 

[Aurinko]

Seem to remember the same stuff after the playoffs this past summer. Many people yelled "small sample size!!!", Colorado fans yelled "Best since ORR!"

Eh well... Makar got the cup ring pretty much instantly after he entered the league and hasn't had any down years. EK has been around for a while, including few last years of catastrophic play and zero cup rings. Now after 18 games into the season people are suddenly bringing him back from the dead.

That's not just small sample size, that's biased sample size!

 

[tiburon12]

Eh well... Makar got the cup ring pretty much instantly after he entered the league and hasn't had any down years. EK has been around for a while, including few last years of catastrophic play and zero cup rings. Now after 18 games into the season people are suddenly bringing him back from the dead.

That's not just small sample size, that's biased sample size!

I'd like to read this post with the hyperbole toned down

 

[Janvonpobben]

The best threads on all of HF come from the 15 game sample size conclusions. EK has a career shooting percentage of 6.7% and never once in his career has he shot above 8.7%.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and make the assumption that 10 goals in 18 games, on 55 shots for an 18.2% shooting percentage are not sustainable.


Great to see him have a nice little resurgence though. Good chance het gets 60+ points this year and may score 20 goals.

Complaining at small sample size at the player who once finished 4th in overall scoring.

 

[YippieKaey]

Eh well... Makar got the cup ring pretty much instantly after he entered the league and hasn't had any down years. EK has been around for a while, including few last years of catastrophic play and zero cup rings. Now after 18 games into the season people are suddenly bringing him back from the dead.

That's not just small sample size, that's biased sample size!

He hasn't had any catastrophic seasons. Even in his worst seasons he's above 0,5 points per game. You could criticize his defensive play but given the team he's on he's more useful trying to score.

But yeah, Makar and young EK are actually great comparisons, similar playstyles even.

 

[Aurinko]

He hasn't had any catastrophic seasons. Even in his worst seasons he's above 0,5 points per game. You could criticize his defensive play but given the team he's on he's more useful trying to score.

But yeah, Makar and young EK are actually great comparisons, similar playstyles even.

Catastrophic might sound like the wrong word here, but players that make 10M$+ do have to carry extra responsibility. Im basically throwing him under the bus for what his team has accomplished, but I feel like that is fair considering his status.

 

[YippieKaey]

Catastrophic might sound like the wrong word here, but players that make 10M$+ do have to carry extra responsibility. Im basically throwing him under the bus for what his team has accomplished, but I feel like that is fair considering his status.

During his time in San Jose he's scoring at a .67 points per game rate which averages out to 54 points per 82 games. He's doing this on a bad team with a lot of health issues. He was great the first two years.

 

[Chips]

I hope Karlsson does have a great full year but I don’t understand the point of this thread, why Karlsson fans get suuuuper defensive of people talking up Makar.

 

[SensFan4lyfe]

Makar is not a generation talent and either is Karlson

 

[psycat]

Not sure Makar have that label to begin with, Karlsson is also borderline.

What it might show is that Makar is not heads andshoulders above(Karlsson) as some, other, hyperbole threads stated at end of last season. Now odds good Makar will pass him in due time in part due to injuries but who knows what happens.

Anyway it's just a few games thus far and Karlsson has been lucky with shots but I doubt he is as good now as 6 years ago and it just goes to show that he is an elite(borderline Generational) talent just as Makar.

 

[MCR74]

I wouldn't call Makar generational. That title is reserved for the proven goats of hockey.

Then it shouldn't apply to Karlsson either.

 

[Random Comment]

Seeing how Karlsson is outperforming his counterparts with body parts that doesn't even belong to him in his mid 30s must raise this question. I know Canadians have been waiting long to have their defenseman but is that a reason to make someone out to something they're not? Don't get me wrong makar is GOOD. He's as good as king Karl is after 20 injuries and on the wrong side of the career while he don't get to feed or any top players like others...

« Canadians » don’t give a shit about « having their Defenceman », not sure where you get this narrative from.

 

[beowulf]

Not sure what this is about...generational label? Karlsson? What?

 

[BKarchitect]

What does EK having a bounce back season have to do with Makar? Karlsson hasn’t been anything close to a top 5 defenseman in the league the last few years prior. People raving about Makar (or Fox or Hedman or Josi) has nothing to do with how Karlsson is perceived and has nothing to do with posters “out to slight” “King Karl”.

Is this Erik’s HF burner account or something?

 

[psycat]

What does EK having a bounce back season have to do with Makar? Karlsson hasn’t been anything close to a top 5 defenseman in the league the last few years prior. People raving about Makar (or Fox or Hedman or Josi) has nothing to do with how Karlsson is perceived and has nothing to do with posters “out to slight” “King Karl”.

Is this Erik’s HF burner account or something?

I guess it's in relation to this, rather large and stupid, thread. Has Cale Makar already surpassed a prime Erik Karlsson in just his first 4 years?

 

[avsfan9]

Cale Makar in the next couple of days is going to be the fastest defensman ever to 200 points in the history of hockey unless he fails to get those two points in the next 15 games. If he does it’s a remarkable accomplishment and makes him as generational as anything Karlsson has ever done.