Is Jim Nill a cap genius or moron?

[Some Other Flame]

As long as the cap doesn't suddenly stagnate or fall, it's genius. This is just basic cap economics - in a rising cap, fixed cap hits are invaluable.

 

[Coffee]

Suffering from success and bipolar

 

[dirtydanglez]

those are all pretty good contracts. the starts can move a player if they need to.

 

[behemolari]

looks good to me.. leafs on the other hand

 

[Bruce Granville]

I’ll just wait until OP finds out about the rising cap…

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Why would Harley agree to a 1 year deal and wait to get paid after?

Sometimes a player signs a cheaper 1 year deal.

Burn a year of RFA and bam get an agreed upon number ahead of time and sign it in January

 

[wolfgaze]

I’ll just wait until OP finds out about the rising cap…

He already did. Try reading the whole post.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

TBD

 

[Regal]

I don’t think too many good players on solid deals is ever a bad thing. I think it’s only an issue if the contracts are bad. You can always move someone if need be and there’s lots of time for things to change. Robertson seems like a guy that might get squeezed out depending on his contract demands.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

He's doing great, but with the cap increases coming, pretty much anybody that locked in their core players for 8 x ~$8M deals over the last few years looks like a cap genius.

Indeed. Appears Dallas is timing this success well.

 

[Coffee]

TBD

Lol knew you weren't clairvoyant

 

[LuGBuG]

If I was a Dallas fan my logic would be if he can fit the players in why not. Ain’t my money. They are going to be a contender for a long time because he has big balls.

 

[LuGBuG]

Why would Harley agree to a 1 year deal and wait to get paid after?

You gotta take enough term when you get the first crack at it to secure the life changing bag.

 

[benfranklin]

If I was a Dallas fan my logic would be if he can fit the players in why not. Ain’t my money. They are going to be a contender for a long time because he has big balls.

The point is he cant...

In 26-27 he will have 19M to spend on 10 roster spots. That is assuming Harley gets $8 and Robertson gets $9, which I'm sure a lot of us will argue is the bare minimum for those two.

Sooooo someone(s) are going to have to be moved. They may get lucky and its Seguin retiring, but if not, that is all ELC, bare minumum deals that obviously will hurt their current depth tremendously.

 

[LuGBuG]

The point is he cant...

In 26-27 he will have 19M to spend on 10 roster spots. That is assuming Harley gets $8 and Robertson gets $9, which I'm sure a lot of us will argue is the bare minimum for those two.

Sooooo someone(s) are going to have to be moved. They may get lucky and its Seguin retiring, but if not, that is all ELC, bare minumum deals that obviously will hurt their current depth tremendously.

I’m sure the the right guy to move will be known by then. He can fit them all now though so who cares. Deal with that when he needs too.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

cap genius- buy now and go for a cup. A cup is always the goal, you’re close, go for it.

And do they have any NMCs? I’m just thinkin they could even just sell Robertson or Heiskanen for a boatload. Terrible idea, but they have so many guys they could trade for profit, and someone is gonna have to go. But they could easily recoup picks and get a slightly worse roster player or somethin. Point is, having more great players on contracts that look good is not a bad thing.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

They likely win the cup this year so worry about the cap after the celebration and cup parade.

 

[frontsfan67]

Possibly they could just trade Seguin

Back to the bruins calling it now

Why would Harley agree to a 1 year deal and wait to get paid after?

Cap is going up.

A bridge deal like that 1 or 2 years would lead to 1- proving himself more, helping team too and 2- more money after he signs for 6/7/8 years after

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

Locking up very good players long term to team friendly deals? Idiot.

 

[flyfysher]

You gotta take enough term when you get the first crack at it to secure the life changing bag.

That’s what I’d be thinking, especially if I were a family man or planned that in my future. You want that financial security. An injury could derail or end your career. In that sense, I think it more likely a player give a hometown discount if they feel a sense of loyalty to the club.

 

[serp]

Stars have allways been really good with the cap and cap planning under Nill. This move is obviously not something that was or even could've been planned for because who the f*** even knew Rantanen was available a couple of months ago . So now they'll have to get to work to make a new plan with the Rantanen contract included in the planning but i have trust they'll get it done

 

[Azzuri]

March and Dumba will be moved. Benn will take a sweetheart deal. Robo might be moved before his next RFA contract. Tough decisions will be made but they'll make it work.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Locking up very good players long term to team friendly deals? Idiot.

Right? I hate that he's Dallas's GM, buidling competitive teams year after year. What a goof.

 

[Elysian]

Benn's contract is up at the end of the year...so that's 9.5M that will be reduced. Plus Dadonov and Ceci won't be back. So that's another 5-6M.

Could see them moving Dumba in the off-season as well.

 

[Fulmination]

The point is he cant...

In 26-27 he will have 19M to spend on 10 roster spots. That is assuming Harley gets $8 and Robertson gets $9, which I'm sure a lot of us will argue is the bare minimum for those two.

Sooooo someone(s) are going to have to be moved. They may get lucky and its Seguin retiring, but if not, that is all ELC, bare minumum deals that obviously will hurt their current depth tremendously.

Too concerned about two years from now

Robo is also an RFA in 27 still. Super easy to get a haul for his contract signed or not since he would to be an offer sheet candidate.

Worry about his contract and his worth in 2026. That’s a whole year to make a move if you feel you want to keep him or anyone for that matter.

I see him as an odd man out eventually. We got his best years.