Player Discussion Is it time to Waive Reaves...

[Fogelhund]

Blindside, point of contact was the head. Text book definition of what they are trying to eliminate. Suspension will be well earned.

 

[ITM]

Should kick tires on Mathieu Olivier.

 

[Macallan18]

A 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for Tanner Jeanot?

yeah, that was some trade. Don't forget the huge salary deal too.

 

[thewave]

Blindside, point of contact was the head. Text book definition of what they are trying to eliminate. Suspension will be well earned.

Yeah it's exactly what they are trying to eliminate. I hope waive him, he doesn't even really fight or do anything anymore. Knies is more crushing and more effective. I am sure we can find someone who can hit out there if they want it.

Just watched it like 5 more times. Textbook Stevensesque blindside direct to the head. There isn't even wiggle room for benefit of the doubt on that puppy.

 

[rumman]

Should kick tires on Mathieu Olivier.

Agreed.

 

[Da Mash]

Wasting a roster spot on these so called “enforcers” or tough players who have the hockey IQ of the puck they are chasing is never good.
The team bottom six can’t afford to waste cap dollars on useless goons. Lorentz is more valuable than Reaves.

And now it seems we made the same mistake as other teams signing Domi to an extension because he had a growl and had a few good weeks playing with Mathews. The guy hasn’t scored since April

The bottom six once again is an issue for this team. Reaves is one of the problems even playing 6-8 mins a game.

 

[Fogelhund]

Should kick tires on Mathieu Olivier.

I’ve said the same a few times. He’d be a nice add.

Yeah it's exactly what they are trying to eliminate. I hope waive him, he doesn't even really fight or do anything anymore. Knies is more crushing and more effective. I am sure we can find someone who can hit out there if they want it.

Just watched it like 5 more times. Textbook Stevensesque blindside direct to the head. There isn't even wiggle room for benefit of the doubt on that puppy.

I watched the hit a few more times. My opinion on Reaves has not changed, he should be suspended, and has full responsibility for the type of hit that needs to be eliminated.

However, what was Nurse doing there? How is it he was skating admiring the puck on his stick with no awareness of where anyone was on the rink? Dude, keep your head up.

 

[Confucius]

Were Edmonton fans upset nobody stood up for Nurse?

 

[disgruntleddave]

I could see this being up to something high like 10+ games.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I could see this being up to something high like 10+ games.

82 would be better

 

[TMLAM34]

A great opportunity coming ahead for the coaching staff and management to realize Reaves provides no intimidation factor out there on the ice and his spot would better serve someone who actually knows how to play the game of hockey. I don’t mind Reaves as your 13th forward for certain games but he should not be a main stay in your lineup. Waiving Reaves and giving him the Simmonds treatment by training with the big club regardless would be a smart move for a cap strapped team.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Stupid hit. Punt this idiot off the team.

 

[Apex Predator]

This will probably be 6 games.

 

[nuck]

This will probably be 6 games.

Telephone hearing so max of 5 games. If Darnell doesn't bob his head right before impact its a different hit but Reavo coming in so fast he was getting tattoed no matter what. Gone for 5.

 

[Blanka]

Reeves was done before he signed with Toronto, they need a guy who can play hockey AND fight when needed, not a guy who can’t play hockey and refuses to fight at all……….

Maybe they can grow him in a lab because they're rare and not on any trade market I'm aware of.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

no surprise....

now will they give him 10 or 82...or will they give him like a small amount because Parros hates leafs...TBD.

 

[Stephen]

Parros is going to come down hard on Reaves today.

 

[NJG]

That was a clean hit... He went though his chest / shoulder, he didn't leave his feet, he didn't move his shoulder up etc. Not his fault Nurse wasn't paying attention and got destroyed.

 

[TorMapleJays]

It was a hit, he didn’t target the head but he directly hit the head.

They killed the penalty off and the place went nuts. They don’t show you that on TV.

Effectively neutered Edmonton for the rest of the game.

That is a real intimidation.

Hope Nurse is ok. He looked fine after the game.

Reevo is a keeper.

You dubasitez can go cheer for 14th Pittsburgh if you like.

 

[colchar]

It's an illegal check to the head.

But not an intentional one. I slowed the footage down and checked second by second, Nurse bent over a bit right before impact. Had he been upright there would have been no hit to the head.

Blindside, point of contact was the head. Text book definition of what they are trying to eliminate. Suspension will be well earned.

Point of contact was the head because Nurse bent over.

 

[Stephen]

Point of contact was the head because Nurse bent over.

Nurse was going to get blown up anyway, but I think the instinctive stop up at the last split second ended up doing more damage because it was the difference between getting blown up via shoulder, or leaning in with his head.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Nurse was going to get blown up anyway, but I think the instinctive stop up at the last split second ended up doing more damage because it was the difference between getting blown up via shoulder, or leaning in with his head.

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What's weird, and I agree with Biz on this, it just felt weird that Nurse kept skating towards the boards a tiny bit more than would be usual. I fully expected his route to start to square up to go up the ice, but he kind of kept skating east a split second longer than was natural.

That ended up being the difference between being smashed head on. And being smashed at a 45 degree angle.

 

[Stephen]

Anyway, the Reaves project is near the 50% point of the contract and I don't see that much value in an intimidating force that can't find a dance partner. Not sure what the suspension does to his status on the team, but if they can soft land him this year and move on that would probably make sense. If you need intimidation and fighting you get a younger guy.

 

[Stephen]

What's weird, and I agree with Biz on this, it just felt weird that Nurse kept skating towards the boards a tiny bit more than would be usual. I fully expected his route to start to square up to go up the ice, but he kind of kept skating east a split second longer than was natural.

That ended up being the difference between being smashed head on. And being smashed at a 45 degree angle.

I didn't hear Biz' analysis but I could see that. Just seemed like Nurse was drifting a bit and kind of stopped up by the time Reaves hit him, so I could see him being hit center of mass, or on a 45 degree angle (and blown up anyway) had his route and timing been slightly different.

 

[Leafs87]

Until we find a replacement we still need him. The break will be good for him too. He’ll come out fresh like after his break last year