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Is Georges Laraque the greatest fighter of all time

Johnny Utah said:
Twist was tough, but he didn't have longevity. His career was cut short by a motorcycle accident. His best years were as a Blue, that was only 5 seasons.
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Twist was great, i can see a top 20 argument for him. the knock i have on him was that he was a one dimensional fighter, just grab jersey and throw bombs
 
CBJ All The Way said:
Post a vid
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You don't know who Probert is? Don't say that here, man. :laugh:

Probert was incredible. His rivalry against Domi was incredible.

I've seen Laraque live, and he was pretty incredible. Maybe he was the greatest of the 2000s, but definitely not all time.

I wouldn't call Probert the greatest either, that title belongs to Dave Brown.

 
Fan Of Every Anton said:
You don't know who Probert is? Don't say that here, man. :laugh:

Probert was incredible. His rivalry against Domi was incredible.

I've seen Laraque live, and he was pretty incredible. Maybe he was the greatest of the 2000s, but definitely not all time.

I wouldn't call Probert the greatest either, that title belongs to Dave Brown.

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Brown is a close number 2.. but theres no shame in being the 2nd toughest badass of all time.
 
My vote would go to Dave Brown. I just think he was a little crazier and meaner than most, not to mention looked for any possible advantage (sewing the arms of his jersey tighter so no one can grab them).
 
Fan Of Every Anton said:
Well played. :laugh:

That fight was even until Probert landed that massive bomb on his chin. Ouch.
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Yeah I agree, Browns second for me but Probies number 1, and pretty much because they fought twice I believe one bad fight and this fight which Probert won.

Probert
Brown

gets tough after those guys though I would be happy with any combo including Wilson, Kocur, Twist etc
 
I don't think cry babies can be considered amongst the greatest fighters of all time. "Boo hoo, Montreal bought me out. Boo hoo, the animals are being killed, however try my GD energy drink. Boo hoo, the CHL needs a union..." **** Georges!
 
Dreakmur said:
P.J. Stock!

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Stock fan but he was a bit of a pillow puncher. fast hands with a good chin.

i saw him fight Gavin Morgan in Hershey, a great toe/toe which saw Stock leaving the ice dripping blood from his nose, also a broken orbital.

there r a slew of Stock fights on utube, i can't find many besides this of Peat fights. i have a Peat dvd.
 
Trognitz said:
Stock fan but he was a bit of a pillow puncher. fast hands with a good chin.

i saw him fight Gavin Morgan in Hershey, a great toe/toe which saw Stock leaving the ice dripping blood from his nose, also a broken orbital.

there r a slew of Stock fights on utube, i can't find many besides this of Peat fights. i have a Peat dvd.
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Stock's not a heavyweight. I just thought he was one of the most entertaining guys.


As for best fighter of all time... maybe Clark Gillies.
 
Joey Kocur is probably the toughest fighter Ive ever seen but there is also Probert, Jimmy Orlando and Nilan.
 
Damn Laraque looks like a baby Laraque in the Blouin video.

And with the Laraque vs. Probert fight that's hard to judge.. Probert leaned in tight like a small man does so he can't get punched in the face, Laraques fault for not backing up/pushing to get him in the range though.
 
Eric Godard should be SOMEWHERE in this conversation. Also...John Scott as one of the best? His fight card is crap. I'd have to go with Probert or someone as the best, though.
 
Georges would probably be in my top 20 somewhere, but I never got the impression he regularly dominated guys despite winning on points in most of his fights. Still, as with anything else hockey related, it's hard to compare across eras.

Probert, Kocur, Brown, B. Wilson, Twist, Gillies, McKenzie and McSorley would all be in my HW top 10. Tocchet and W. Clark might also make it, as they could fight and beat HW's.

Another who's not mentioned here... kind of a Gillies type as he didn't fight a lot, was Barry Beck. He scared people.

And another who deserves some mention in the John Ferguson category was Orland Kurtenbach, who also carried quite a rep back in the day.
 
MonsterSurge said:
Eric Godard should be SOMEWHERE in this conversation. Also...John Scott as one of the best? His fight card is crap. I'd have to go with Probert or someone as the best, though.
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Scott still has an impressive record, even if the overall impression of his fight card is a bit lacking, or not quite supportive enough for GOAT consideration. Still some accomplished scrappers in there, though, like Koci, Staubitz, Janssen, Parros, etc. And boy is big and can certainly throw them, so I would hardly laugh at the mere mention of his name in conversation.
 
In his prime BGL was the greatest and most feared heavyweight of all time. let's not even talk about the past. Guys like O'reilly and Nilan, etc...we're not in the same universe size / strength wise. Laraque was a specimen drafted in the 2nd round strictly because of his size and strength. I've talked to him on numerous occasions. He weighed in at 260 in his first year and if anyone remembers destroyed Rob Ray in his very first fight - broke his orbital bone, concussed him etc...nobody tried him again that year. nobody. imagine that. a rookie. There have been guys who were great, who did well vs him ---grimson, twist, etc...but no one could control another heavyweight like BGL could. No one.
 
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