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wingsfannnn9191

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I’m thinking unless Yzerman brings in like pettersson/mctavish etc.. he’s likely a goner . I’d be happy if we got desnoyers/iginla + buut etc.. in a deal but these types of guys might be too young for debrincat to stick around

My gut is just telling me he’s gone which in that case for me is 100% gone before game 1 before his #’s tank and so does his value.

Anyways back to debrincat … sorry to depress some but is he gone and if so what teams would logically look at him? Does he have more value in a sign and trade cause he’d be choosing his destination or at 50% to a cash strapped team like we ton etc.. would it be more beneficial


Anyways does Alex stay or go
 
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wingsfannnn9191 said:
I’m thinking unless Yzerman brings in like pettersson/mctavish etc.. he’s likely a goner . I’d be happy if we got desnoyers/iginla + buut etc.. in a deal but these types of guys might be too young for debrincat to stick around

My gut is just telling me he’s gone which in that case for me is 100% gone before game 1 before his #’s tank and so does his value.

Anyways back to debrincat … sorry to depress some but is he gone and if so what teams would logically look at him? Does he have more value in a sign and trade cause he’d be choosing his destination or at 50% to a cash strapped team like we ton etc.. would it be more beneficial


Anyways does Alex stay or go
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Okay, let's play this out. If we lose Larkin and DeBrincat this offseason, we're probably also losing Kane, and Faulk isn't necessarily a long-term piece either. That completely changes the trajectory of the team, and not for the better.

At that point, why wouldn't Seider and Raymond be next? Trading Larkin and DeBrincat may not send us all the way back to 2019, but it's pretty close. We'd essentially be restarting the cycle and finding ourselves in the same position with Seider and Raymond a few years down the road.

Players like DeBrincat are incredibly difficult to acquire. Unless the plan is a full teardown within the next year or two and a rebuild centered around Bear and Edvinsson, I don't see how moving all of our best veteran players is the right path forward.
 
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Okay, let's play this out. If we lose Larkin and DeBrincat this offseason, we're probably also losing Kane, and Faulk isn't necessarily a long-term piece either. That completely changes the trajectory of the team, and not for the better.

At that point, why wouldn't Seider and Raymond be next? Trading Larkin and DeBrincat may not send us all the way back to 2019, but it's pretty close. We'd essentially be restarting the cycle and finding ourselves in the same position with Seider and Raymond a few years down the road.

Players like DeBrincat are incredibly difficult to acquire. Unless the plan is a full teardown within the next year or two and a rebuild centered around Buium and Edvinsson, I don't see how moving all of our best veteran players is the right path forward.
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Losing Kane isn’t a big deal to me, I’d rather give more an opportunity to a nygard etc.. so that could be a good thing. I’d rather have debrincat and more of a role for nygard than Kane but I don’t think he sticks with Larkin gone unless we add another piece to replace Larkin but we were also looking to add another c to go next to Larkin

I still think we have a few more years before Raymond and seider would demand out. Realistically unless we add someone even with debrincat there were likely a bottom team. Like I been saying we need younger talent to come out of nowhere to explode for us to succeed. Could be a better thing long term especially depending what we get from Larkin deal

Kasper,nygard etc… will be given bigger roles and obviously it’ll all depend on how they perform. If kasper bounces back to 25 goals 60 pts with more ice time and nygard goes off for 20-25 on year 1 I’d say there’s reason for optimism + if we never know with the draft lottery but we can add a legitimate #1c and get lucky at the draft for once and it’s a celebrini type that can join us right away it’ll change everything. But only time will tell

Buium? … well if debrincat and Faulk don’t want to resign we can’t do anything. That’s out of our control. I do think we’ll be in a bad spot for a year or possibly 2 but I’m hopeful it won’t be a 20 yr no playoffs streak coming

Again all depends if Yzerman uses assets from a debrincat trade and goes and fetch a mctavish (if Larkin doesn’t go to Anaheim) and uses other assets at similar type players and if our kids we get in a trade or drafted step up

Name seider C … seider Raymond edvinsson can be a nice starting point + im a believer in asp and Anton … good goalies in the pipeline … again everything depends on our younger players and if any can make big impacts with more of a role

Maybe finnie goes off for 25 ? only in time will answer our questions be answered
 
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If DeBrincat is willing to sign an extension in July than you keep him. If he’s leery you have to trade him. The onus is on him at this point.
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He might also say he wants an extention but wants to be traded right away. I think that could be worse cause he’d choose his 1 team to go to
 
Detroit needs to go directly to NJ and make a Larkin/Hischer swap happen.

It feels like Larkin is the linchpin for Quinn Hughes. We all know Hughes would like to play with Larkin, and I don’t see how he turns down not only Larkin but both of his brothers. This is our leverage. You give us Hischer (extended) you get Larkin at a cheaper rate and a substantially better chance to get Quinn Hughes in a years time.

That’s the way I’m playing this if I’m yzerman and I think if he pulls it off this team is a better team instantly (also a touch younger)
 
When my high salary, mopey co-worker resigns at work, I see that as an opportunity for a larger role and potential growth, change of culture, etc. This is a professional organization and these are professionals.

You guys really think the Red Wings players are all behind closed doors ripping on Yzerman, McLellan, and staff? Many of whom carry an NHL resume’ dating back to before these players were born.

Sure, that may be the case for a few of them, but if true, it’s a Larkin problem. And this news could not have arrived quicker.

If Steve reaches out to the team and says “anyone else?” and a few hands go up.. well, there’s the door.

Another thing I want to add that is getting missed. When elite players (Larks, Cat) demand a trade in a seller’s market, this needs to be seen as an opportunity, not a detriment or impediment to success. This is where your GM needs to play 4D chess and find a way to leverage the circumstance into hope for a brighter future.

If SY fumbles this OPPORTUNITY, I think he’ll see his own way out.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up leaving. Last year he showed his drive to win is "second to none" on this team. Depending on the return for Larkin, at best, the Wings would still need another legit 2nd line center.
 
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Detroit needs to go directly to NJ and make a Larkin/Hischer swap happen.

It feels like Larkin is the linchpin for Quinn Hughes. We all know Hughes would like to play with Larkin, and I don’t see how he turns down not only Larkin but both of his brothers. This is our leverage. You give us Hischer (extended) you get Larkin at a cheaper rate and a substantially better chance to get Quinn Hughes in a years time.

That’s the way I’m playing this if I’m yzerman and I think if he pulls it off this team is a better team instantly (also a touch younger)
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I’d want more than hischier. He wants apparently what 13 million . I’m sorry but that’s utterly ridiculous for his production
 
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wingsfannnn9191 said:
I’d want more than hischier. He wants apparently what 13 million . I’m sorry but that’s utterly ridiculous for his production
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Larkin giving us opportunity not to be mediocre. Hischier will not going to make this team better and will keep away from high draft picks.
 
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He's gone. He'll test UFA and get paid. It's on the Red Wings to get value out of him now or the TDL.
 
wingsfannnn9191 said:
I’d want more than hischier. He wants apparently what 13 million . I’m sorry but that’s utterly ridiculous for his production
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Wings fans should be happy he'd wanna sign vs complain. We've got 32 million to spend with a rising cap and player rolling off the books and.... no talent.
 
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Okay, let's play this out. If we lose Larkin and DeBrincat this offseason, we're probably also losing Kane, and Faulk isn't necessarily a long-term piece either. That completely changes the trajectory of the team, and not for the better.

At that point, why wouldn't Seider and Raymond be next? Trading Larkin and DeBrincat may not send us all the way back to 2019, but it's pretty close. We'd essentially be restarting the cycle and finding ourselves in the same position with Seider and Raymond a few years down the road.

Players like DeBrincat are incredibly difficult to acquire. Unless the plan is a full teardown within the next year or two and a rebuild centered around Buium and Edvinsson, I don't see how moving all of our best veteran players is the right path forward.
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The reality is Raymond, and Seider are on different timelines than the other group.

Players ask for trades all of the time in this league and it doesn't turn into a cacophony of anyone decent asking out.

Dahlin and Thompson stuck it out after Eichel left. (Pre-breakout) Mackinnon and Landeskog didn't ask out when Duchene asked for a trade. There are plenty of other examples.

Im not going to push Debrincat out the door, id love to keep him, but I don't think we need to fearmonger about Raymond and Seider.
 
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wingsfannnn9191 said:
Sorry he’s not worth 13 per for 65 ish pts
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Idc what he's paid if we're winning.

The 10 million this year that wasn't spent must have made you feel good.

Spending money doesn't mean you'll be good, but if you don't spend the money, you for sure won't be good. Red Wings problem isn't overspending, it's talent.
 
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All depends on what SY does with Larkin and when...

If it drags on past the draft, no chance free agents sign here, no chance Cat commits longterm here...like zero chance

SY needs to move Larkin for comparable center, and add another center by early July to convince any free agent worth having to sign here AND more importantly Debrincat to commit.

SY essentially has 3 weeks to set the trajectory of the franchise for the next 5 years
 
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Idc what he's paid if we're winning.

The 10 million this year that wasn't spent must have made you feel good.

Spending money doesn't mean you'll be good, but if you don't spend the money, you for sure won't be good. Red Wings problem isn't overspending, it's talent.
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And if we’re not winning he’s an overpaid 13 mill dollar 65 pt center

You’re right about the talent part. Paying that much for 60 pt forward is not a solution though
 
wingsfannnn9191 said:
And if we’re not winning he’s an overpaid 13 mill dollar 65 pt center

You’re right about the talent part. Paying that much for 60 pt forward is not a solution though
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Your other option is to over pay for guys like Copp/Compher/Appleton/Rasmussen.

Big numbers bother you though, seems you rather have 4 wasted roster spots with guys getting a 'couple' million more, which actually equals more than just one overpay for a really good player.
 
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Your other option is to over pay for guys like Copp/Compher/Appleton/Rasmussen.

Big numbers bother you though, seems you rather have 4 wasted roster spots with guys getting a 'couple' million more, which actually equals more than just one overpay for a really good player.
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The best option is to acquire assets and tank this upcoming season. Anyone who wants out of that plan can walk and be part of the asset acquisition.
 
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