Agent Zuuuub
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That's just a cop-out answer.
giving the captaincy to players who had no idea what it takes to win in the nhl because of last names and marketing was the cop out.
That's just a cop-out answer.
Again, ancient history lesson.
Are you saying that once he was able to play close to a full season? Ok?
Great, again, history lesson.
It's not particularly disingenuous when most of his competitors in that comparative ranking also had their rookie seasons and also missed games due to the pandemic in the same span.
If your time machine is in working order, I'm sure we have a solution to our apparent disagreement on his current level of play.
The fact that it's "only been 3 seasons" omits the fact that they are the most relevant seasons to consider given that they are the 3 most recent seasons. Now who is being disingenuous?
A 25 year old, 6'4, rugged winger that scores 35 goals and around a point per game. Yeah, who would want a player like that.
I think Marner is better but saying Brady is just average and nothing stands out is a bit extreme and just as bad/biased as the people taking him over marnerObviously he is overrated based on the Marner poll results
He’s a career average 65pts per 82 games, and has never made the playoffs in his career.
I mean, he’s just average. There is nothing that stands out about this guy
It is your opinions he is overrated. He has also played on a pretty bad team his entire career. I would take him over Marner. I have no bias, I don't like Ottawa or the Leafs, actually I am not even a fan of the Tkachuk's in general. He is a unique and rare player that can add a lot of elements to a line and to a team. He adds a dimension that is difficult to find in today's NHL. I guess it really depends what you want or need in a player, they play a completely different style.Obviously he is overrated based on the Marner poll results
He’s a career average 65pts per 82 games, and has never made the playoffs in his career.
I mean, he’s just average. There is nothing that stands out about this guy
It is your opinions he is overrated. He has also played on a pretty bad team his entire career. I would take him over Marner. I have no bias, I don't like Ottawa or the Leafs, actually I am not even a fan of the Tkachuk's in general. He is a unique and rare player that can add a lot of elements to a line and to a team. He adds a dimension that is difficult to find in today's NHL. I guess it really depends what you want or need in a player, they play a completely different style.
I think Marner is better but saying Brady is just average and nothing stands out is a bit extreme and just as bad/biased as the people taking him over marner
He is pretty average. He has had 1 decent season and has had a good start this year. The rest of his career has been very pedestrian
We can agree to disagree. Comparing the +/- of one player that has played on a team that has been much better offensively and defensively then the other for a number of years is silly.Can’t agree with that. You think tkachuk is a ‘rare’ talent?
How many players are there in the league like Marner? 90+ points per 82 games I his career, and plays all situations and is super star level at everything from 5 on 5, to quarterbacking a powerplay to being your top penalty killer?
A player that a coach can even play as a defenseman and is on the ice at the end of the game whether you’re winning or losing?
Plus/minus isn’t the greatest stat (by far), but we are talking a career +110 and a career -58. Sometimes plus/minus does tell a story, and this one is a pretty obvious one.
You think tkachuk is rare, and that’s why you’d take him but that is hand waving away how much Marner is MUCH MORE RARE of a player.
You can just say it, you value physical play over everything else that Marner brings to the table that tkachuk isn’t even in the same area code with.
Which is every single other aspect of the game of hockey
He is pretty average. He has had 1 decent season and has had a good start this year. The rest of his career has been very pedestrian