Is Bedard worthy of a 15 mil/8 year contract? CHGO Sports believes so... with link.

[Romang67]

It's also super weird that you pay any attention to what CHGO speculates about regarding Bedard's future contract.

Like, really odd. The video you linked have 835 views, presumably including mine because I just clicked the link. CHGO Sports have 75k subscribers on YouTube, the vast majority of which are not on there because of the Blackhawks. Are you just going around looking for reasons to be upset about Bedard?

Also, just to tie it all together with a neat little knot, it's also weird that you're upset about the NHL advertising their young talent, when the league for years have been atrocious at marketing.

But, to answer your question, I don't think Bedard's next contract will be $15M per year for 8 years.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I meant what he was come contract time as far as that goes. Two separate things. I may even have that timeline wrong too. I thought he had his breakout season with Matthews and then signed. Either way he had a 1C level center to play with.

If you want to compare him and Bedard and where they are at contract wise, things should be closer to the same. For example if Bedard moves to wing and the hawks sign a 1C for him to play next to, I would find using marner as a comp between contracts more valid.

they played a little together here and there but mostly on the PP. Marner and Matthews became a dynamic duo few years later. but either way it doesn't really take anything away from the point your making. Tavares ain't some bum,

I think 8x11.5m makes sense with his overall production and the cap rising. Marner got that as an RFA 6 years ago. and I agree C is a tougher and more important position compared to a W.

People have to remember the NHL doesn't pay players for only results. now they pay up for potential as well, if Laf got almost 8m I think it's completely reasonable for Bedard to get 11.5

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I think in order to get a contract like that, he will have to compete for the Art Ross next season

what do you think he should sign for right now? keep in mind Laf just got 7.45m and he has 176 points across 345 games

230 more games and only above Bedard by 74 points.

with those numbers how much more should Bedard get over Laf's 7.45m?

 

[Crow]

they played a little together here and there but mostly on the PP. Marner and Matthews became a dynamic duo few years later. but either way it doesn't really take anything away from the point your making. Tavares ain't some bum,

I think 8x11.5m makes sense with his overall production and the cap rising. Marner got that as an RFA 6 years ago. and I agree C is a tougher and more important position compared to a W.

People have to remember the NHL doesn't pay players for only results. now they pay up for potential as well, if Laf got almost 8m I think it's completely reasonable for Bedard to get 11.5

I think I said 12x8 on the hawks board a couple weeks ago and I was met with some pause. Signing him for that long with his potential is going to be somewhat pricey. There is going to be some risk for both sides. I don’t think it’s going to be more than that though, unless he starts destroying the league at a rate we have not seen so far from him.

 

[Voight]

Its not bedard that bugs me man, i also wish he was as good as advertised... its the freaking circus show the NHL has hired to advertise him everywhere as if he was the MJ of hockey... when he's clearly not there and will never get there...

i have nothing with hockey players.

The best player in the league is on a Canadian team so the NHL was just looking for a guy to market in America. They got lucky that Sid & ivy both played for US teams, but they needed that next guy to build their marketing around and Bedard has the potential to be a top 3 player and plays for an Original Six team.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

It’s not insulting. It’s just not comparable. One guy was a year older playing with several talented players. One guy isn’t. One guy is free to play wing. One guy isn’t.

Marner played with Bozak and JVR in his rookie season if memory serves. I think it's definitely fair game to compare them.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I think I said 12x8 on the hawks board a couple weeks ago and I was met with some pause. Signing him for that long with his potential is going to be somewhat pricey. There is going to be some risk for both sides. I don’t think it’s going to be more than that though, unless he starts destroying the league at a rate we have not seen so far from him.

it really depends, if Chicago sign him this offseason over waiting another year. for example Marner wanted 8.5m I believe a year before he was RFA, then he had an incredible year, Tavares signed for 11m and Matthews 11.5m or something I forget the exact number and he gets 10.9m

so it really all depends I think 10-11.5m should be viewed as a low. I think for the most part these type of players signing in the 9's is over with the cap going up big time

Marner played with Bozak and JVR in his rookie season if memory serves. I think it's definitely fair game to compare them.

umm yeah I think your right, 2nd year he played with Tavares

 

[Crow]

Marner played with Bozak and JVR in his rookie season if memory serves. I think it's definitely fair game to compare them.

We can compare their rookie seasons, their age 19 seasons at the end of the year, etc. That seems fair. I don’t think there is much to directly compare as far as contracts go at this time as a percentage of cap. Maybe in another year and a half. It would make more sense to compare him to many other players for contract purposes.

 

[WarriorofTime]

How is this even a question?

Mcdavid dominated year 2 and won all the major awards and followed it up with another Ross + Pearson

matthews, an overpayment even at the time, was pacing for around 100 points and had a ppg pace the year prior.

Due to teammates and himself, Bedard hasn’t eclipsed a ppg yet and might not this season either in a pretty high scoring environment. He is in bridge territory IMO, it makes sense from both sides. Something around 7-8 for 2 years. Otherwise you probably pay him 12 and hope (probably do) see him live up to it, but if bedard bridges he can get that 15m+ if he performs well.

Guys, Bedard isn't an RFA this offseason. He's an RFA after next season. He's just eligible to sign an extension beginning July 1, 2025, which would go into effect for the season following that upcoming one, beginning 2026-27. There is no reason to sign a bridge on July 1, 2025 because he can walk into the 2025-26 season as a pending RFA and sign a contract at any point thereafter. A bridge would likely be signed following the 2025-26 season if there is still a bit of uncertainty on whether he's worth an 8 year/15 % type contract, something else or if he wanted to squeeze his way into UFA to possibly bolt as quick as possible.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I voted for 8 X 12.5, due to the cap going up significantly. 8 I am pretty sure on, most young stars ask for an 8 year deal. I'm not sure if he will ask for 11 or the 12.5, but I'm pretty sure he isn't worth 15 today. He's not a ppg guy yet.

 

[Canovin]

10M should be the most he's getting

 

[Pablo El Perro]

10M should be the most he's getting

I agree he hasn't earned North of 10, but if he is signing long term, he'll likely get more.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Marner signed after a 94pts season deep into September this is crazy talk.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

what do you think he should sign for right now? keep in mind Laf just got 7.45m and he has 176 points across 345 games

230 more games and only above Bedard by 74 points.

with those numbers how much more should Bedard get over Laf's 7.45m?

Well, if Bedard believes he will be an Art Ross/Hart trophy type of player, there's no way he signs an 8 year deal at a discounted number, so maybe a bridge

 

[WarriorofTime]

Well, if Bedard believes he will be an Art Ross/Hart trophy type of player, there's no way he signs an 8 year deal at a discounted number, so maybe a bridge

No reason to bridge. I'm guessing Bedard goes into next season and if he's off to a hot start, signs a contract by November. But it wouldn't be shocking to carry it into the following offseason.

 

[Blue and Green]

McDavid and Eichel both signed after two seasons. McDavid $12.5M x 8, Eichel $10M x 8. Bedard's no McDavid but he's quite comparable to Eichel, especially considering that he's nine months younger than Eichel was during his first two seasons.

Given the escalation of the salary cap, signing in the upcoming summer for around $12.5M x 8 would be very similar to Eichel's deal at that time.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Feel he's purposely going to take a bargain in order to have cap room.