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Kings Article: Is Andrej Sekera worth It?

kingsfan said:
Why are we limited to just UFA?

I'd rather trade an asset or assets for a D-man on a much more reasonable contract than sign a guy like Sekera to some $5.5 mill contract for seven years.
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I'm okay with that idea, but I've had a REALLY hard time finding someone around the league that fits the bill as a 2nd-pairing, preferably RH d-man that's available for a price that won't hurt us elsewhere.
 
kingsfan said:
Why are we limited to just UFA?

I'd rather trade an asset or assets for a D-man on a much more reasonable contract than sign a guy like Sekera to some $5.5 mill contract for seven years.
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What would you trade from the Kings roster, prospects, or picks that would land you a top 4 defenseman in a trade?
 
KINGS17 said:
What would you trade from the Kings roster, prospects, or picks that would land you a top 4 defenseman in a trade?
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Depends on the player, contract and age, but about the only players I wouldn't deal are Toffoli, Carter, Pearson, Kopitar, Doughty, Muzzin, and Quick. I'd also not deal Voynov because A) we can't likely due to legal issues and suspension and B) we'd get very little in return right now.

After that all picks, prospects and players would be in play.
 
kingsfan said:
Depends on the player, contract and age, but about the only players I wouldn't deal are Toffoli, Carter, Pearson, Kopitar, Doughty, Muzzin, and Quick. I'd also not deal Voynov because A) we can't likely due to legal issues and suspension and B) we'd get very little in return right now.

After that all picks, prospects and players would be in play.
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Who do you have in mind?

I looked at literally every roster in the league and can't see a 2nd pairing guy better than Sekera that woudn't cost us an arm, a leg, and a 1st.
 
Brad Doty said:
Who do you have in mind?

I looked at literally every roster in the league and can't see a 2nd pairing guy better than Sekera that woudn't cost us an arm, a leg, and a 1st.
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I don't have anyone in mind because I don't know who is available. There's always guys dealt, especially at the draft, that most people would have thought would never be traded.

I think the club should focus on getting a physical guy to replace Regehr. I figure Toronto would move Polak and he'd cost about a 2nd.
 
kingsfan said:
I don't have anyone in mind because I don't know who is available. There's always guys dealt, especially at the draft, that most people would have thought would never be traded.

I think the club should focus on getting a physical guy to replace Regehr. I figure Toronto would move Polak and he'd cost about a 2nd.
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Like I said, I don't doubt it and DL always seems to surprise. I would think that if not Sekera, DL already has a plan for the 2nd pairing.

Available or not, I looked at LITERALLY every roster around the league (not prospects, though, so maybe something there like McNabb) and can't see anything that would 1. be an upgrade or even near Sekera and/or 2. wouldn't cost us more than it would be worth to just spend an extra million on Sekera.

Not poopooing your opinion because I agree in a way, I just think there's slimmer pickings than being let on in this thread (like 'oh just patch it using someone else in a trade' isn't a simple option). And Polak on a 2nd pairing would be just the 2nd coming of Greene, really, imho. I don't see that as a significant fix.

God oh god I hope DL isn't looking at Orpik who he loved before, same w/Martin (maybe ok for a year, but meh).
 
kingsfan said:
I don't have anyone in mind because I don't know who is available. There's always guys dealt, especially at the draft, that most people would have thought would never be traded.

I think the club should focus on getting a physical guy to replace Regehr. I figure Toronto would move Polak and he'd cost about a 2nd.
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Regehr was awful. Him not being on the roster is going to be an upgrade. Essentially McNabb/Greene replace Regehr's minutes.
 
Yes, he's worth it.

An upgrade over Martinez, and in a very short timespan helped McNabb develop into a solid defenseman.
 
Jason Lewis said:
Regehr was awful. Him not being on the roster is going to be an upgrade. Essentially McNabb/Greene replace Regehr's minutes.
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Regehr was not awful and no, losing Regehr is not an upgrade. Not counting Voynov's six games, only Doughty and Muzzin played more minutes per game than Regehr and Regehr seen no powerplay time at all, so all his minutes were 5on5 or shorthanded. This on the fourth best defensive team in the league last year.

Also, if McNabb and Greene are going to eat up Regehr's minutes, you'd have them over 20 minutes per game. Wtf? Are you suggesting Greene at 20 minutes a game is a good idea? Regehr's awful but Greene at 20 minutes a game is fine? Greene would be spun inside out playing the big minutes Regehr did. The last time Greene even averaged over 17:30 a game was 2009-2010.
 
ScoreZeGoals said:
I'd give him Petry's deal and trade Martinez if it needed to be done financially to get it done
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I agree. Like Martinez but I think he is a tweeter Dman. Awesome third pairing guy, but would want a better long term solution on the second pairing. At 4 mil a year he is an expensive luxury in a cap crunch time.
 
If you lose Kopitar your season is not over because you have Carter. If you lose Doughty your season is not over if you have Sekera.
 
The difference between Kopitar and Carter (especially this season) is far smaller than the difference between Doughty and Sekera.
 
Brad Doty said:
Like I said, I don't doubt it and DL always seems to surprise. I would think that if not Sekera, DL already has a plan for the 2nd pairing.

Available or not, I looked at LITERALLY every roster around the league (not prospects, though, so maybe something there like McNabb) and can't see anything that would 1. be an upgrade or even near Sekera and/or 2. wouldn't cost us more than it would be worth to just spend an extra million on Sekera.

Not poopooing your opinion because I agree in a way, I just think there's slimmer pickings than being let on in this thread (like 'oh just patch it using someone else in a trade' isn't a simple option). And Polak on a 2nd pairing would be just the 2nd coming of Greene, really, imho. I don't see that as a significant fix.

God oh god I hope DL isn't looking at Orpik who he loved before, same w/Martin (maybe ok for a year, but meh).
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That was kind of the point behind my question. I don't think there is a better option than Sekera at this point.

If Dean has to I would be ok with him moving Martinez to make room, and maybe Martinez brings some depth down the middle at a much lower cap hit than Stoll and Richards combined. I'm fine with a 4th line of:

Nolan - Shore - Clifford
 
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Anyone suggesting signing a 29 year old player to a Seven year contract...NO.

No. The Kings are lucky enough that Gabo's contract doesn't qualify for early retirement penalties. That doesn't mean load up on more of those type of deals. The cap is changing the league right in front of our eyes.

The vast majority of Cap dollars, and long term contracts, should go to guys that are 20-27. Not guys hitting the wrong side of the 30 in the next season or so.
 
Face it. We lost Roland McKeown and a 1st round draft pick for 15 games of Sekera.

Simply can't afford him.
 
Reclamation Project said:
The difference between Kopitar and Carter (especially this season) is far smaller than the difference between Doughty and Sekera.
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Doesn't matter because the supporting defensemen and goalie is better than the supporting cast at center. Sekera, with the Muzzin and co, can keep the Kings going. As you saw last year, we do need to win some regular season games.
 
damacles1156 said:
Anyone suggesting signing a 29 year old player to a Seven year contract...NO.

No. The Kings are lucky enough that Gabo's contract doesn't qualify for early retirement penalties. That doesn't mean load up on more of those type of deals. The cap is changing the league right in front of our eyes.

The vast majority of Cap dollars, and long term contracts, should go to guys that are 20-27. Not guys hitting the wrong side of the 30 in the next season or so.
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The Kings just gave a six year contract to a 28 year old defenseman who isn't as good as Sekera
 
I think the Kings have to keep him to stay competitive, even if it means paying him 5-6 million. He's a guy who can carry a second pair which is something I have not seen from any other d-man on the team other than Doughty and maybe Muzzin (not counting Voynov atm). You obviously aren't gonna get a guy like that in free agency on a decent contract unless you get incredibly lucky. Can the Kings afford another 1st + top prospect type of trade? Probably not, even if there is a player like that to be found.

No you just gotta sign him, even if you have to send some guys packing to afford it sign him (sorry Martinez). If at some later point Sekera becomes a luxury the Kings no longer can afford he's an asset that likely wouldn't be hard to move and could yield a pretty good return.
 
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