Kings Article: Is Andrej Sekera worth It?

[Jason Lewis]

Tight and uncertain times face the Kings financially. Without a doubt.

Where do they go from here? What happens with Richards? What happens with Voynov? What is the cap going to be? What about Toffoli? What about Sekera?

Of all the uncertain questions facing the Kings, the latter two have the biggest impact on the roster. The Kings have dealt without both Richards and Voynov and done just fine. Toffoli, while he will be a King more likely than not, is a key scorer in the lineup. Andrej Sekera is arguably just as important a piece to the Kings, and his future in Los Angeles is far less certain

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Jason-Lewis/Is-Andrej-Sekera-worth-It/179/69083

As always, I appreciate everything you guys contribute to the conversation! Thanks

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[damacles1156]

I say not worth 5 or 6 million.

4 million is where I would be okay with Sekera.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

 

[KINGS17]

Muzzin - Doughty
McNabb - XXXXX
Martinez - Greene

Forbort

This is what we are looking at without Sekera.

If the Kings want to contend for the next few years, I think they need to sign Sekera.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

Muzzin - Doughty
McNabb - XXXXX
Martinez - Greene

Forbort

This is what we are looking at without Sekera.

If the Kings want to contend for the next few years, I think they need to sign Sekera.

Does the XXXXX mean that you are thinking about using 1 2/3 porn stars in our second pairing?

 

[bob77]

To me, he'd be worth it if they make plans for him on the left side. We got Muzzin, Martinez, McNabb, Forbort, Schultz. Our right side is Doughty, Voynov, and Greene, and perhaps Miller. So, if you say put him on the left and trade someone, maybe? 5-6 million is a lot to spend on a guy and then put him on his wrong side.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Muzzin - Doughty
McNabb - XXXXX
Martinez - Greene

Forbort

This is what we are looking at without Sekera.

If the Kings want to contend for the next few years, I think they need to sign Sekera.

About to read the article but that's how I feel. It's almost worth a big price just to shore it up if we want to contend. There's not really anyone out there via FA that would be MUCH cheaper and still good, and putting any rookie on the bottom 6 with a configuration of Martinez-rookie-McNabb-Greene doesn't scream contender to me (especially if Marty is the #3, though I love him).

 

[Jason Lewis]

I say not worth 5 or 6 million.

4 million is where I would be okay with Sekera.

I guess it depends on the overall value of worth, honestly.

Because even if 5-6 is actually 100% correct value for a player of his contributions, it may not be the correct "worth" for the Kings. They basically need to look for someone who is cheaper

 

[damacles1156]

Meh the Hawks are up 1-0 in the finals, with playing Four Defense-men all year basically. I don't even think the Defense was a problem last season. Sure they blew a lot of third period leads, but that is on the whole team really.

 

[Jason Lewis]

To me, he'd be worth it if they make plans for him on the left side. We got Muzzin, Martinez, McNabb, Forbort, Schultz. Our right side is Doughty, Voynov, and Greene, and perhaps Miller. So, if you say put him on the left and trade someone, maybe? 5-6 million is a lot to spend on a guy and then put him on his wrong side.

I thought I read somewhere that Sekera is equally comfortable on either the left or the right.

 

[Minor Boarding]

Does the XXXXX mean that you are thinking about using 1 2/3 porn stars in our second pairing?

Not a bad idea. Swallowing pucks to get the whistle would help Quick.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Just read it. Good look Jason!

I think 5x5 is something that would do both parties well. Anything less is an absolute bargain.

Anything more is something that's probably worth it for the player, but hurts our team....yet you can argue it would hurt us more to NOT have him unless DL pulls another magic-out-of-left-field trade for a cheapish vet RHD.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

Meh the Hawks are up 1-0 in the finals, with playing Four Defense-men all year basically. I don't even think the Defense was a problem last season. Sure they blew a lot of third period leads, but that is on the whole team really.

I think (in theory) that if we had Voynov or a competent second pairing D the entire season that we would have won many of those games where we blew the lead int he third period and either lost the game or lost the shootout.

Also, you can't compare us to the Hawks. They play a very different style. We rely much more on our D than they do

 

[Jason Lewis]

Just read it. Good look Jason!

I think 5x5 is something that would do both parties well. Anything less is an absolute bargain.

Anything more is something that's probably worth it for the player, but hurts our team....yet you can argue it would hurt us more to NOT have him unless DL pulls another magic-out-of-left-field trade for a cheapish vet RHD.

Thanks!

5 is a low side of things but realistic. 6 is too high but realistic as well. 5x5 would be some straight up magic though. It all depends on if his agent wants to point to the positive end of his contributions more. You probably know how that shakes out already. Don't know of any agent in the world who goes into a negotiation aiming on the low side.

Also, can we talk about just how stupid good Duncan Keith and OELs contracts are? Good god.

 

[damacles1156]

I think (in theory) that if we had Voynov or a competent second pairing D the entire season that we would have won many of those games where we blew the lead int he third period and either lost the game or lost the shootout.

Also, you can't compare us to the Hawks. They play a very different style. We rely much more on our D than they do

I don't think the Kings do.

The difference between the Kings and other teams Shane Doan put it perfectly.

Reporter "Why are the Kings so hard to score on ? "

Shane Doan "They don't do anything special, it's just that their forwards work extremely hard down low, the forwards basically outwork you".

System wise the Kings don't do anything really special, they don't.

The Kings don't rely on the Defenders more so than say WPG or EDM. The Kings are just a very good structured team(Thank you, Terry Murray), and the forwards are very good defensively. Also the Kings have this guy named Quick in net to clean up errors.

 

[Jason Lewis]

I think (in theory) that if we had Voynov or a competent second pairing D the entire season that we would have won many of those games where we blew the lead int he third period and either lost the game or lost the shootout.

Also, you can't compare us to the Hawks. They play a very different style. We rely much more on our D than they do

Kings D pretty much begins and ends with the forwards. If possession is good, the D isn't worked as hard. If the forward support is good, the D isn't worked as hard.

Not to undervalue the role of defenders in the system, but the Kings, especially their centermen, are the linchpin of the whole dealio. If we have weak centers it is bad news.

 

[damacles1156]

Kings D pretty much begins and ends with the forwards. If possession is good, the D isn't worked as hard. If the forward support is good, the D isn't worked as hard.

Not to undervalue the role of defenders in the system, but the Kings, especially their centermen, are the linchpin of the whole dealio. If we have weak centers it is bad news.

Bingo.

Which is what happened nightly this last season. With Richards/Stoll dropping off the face of the earth. Kopitar/Carter inconsistent play on the road. It really speaks to how good the Kings are.

Even with all the issues this last season, the Kings still managed to post 95 points.

 

[xavi4life]

I didn't see anything special about Sekeras the entire time he was with the Kings.

 

[kingsfan]

Muzzin - Doughty
McNabb - XXXXX
Martinez - Greene

Forbort

This is what we are looking at without Sekera.

If the Kings want to contend for the next few years, I think they need to sign Sekera.

Or someone else worth that kind of money.

 

[KopitarFAN]

Or someone else worth that kind of money.

Have a look at the list of UFA Defenseman, its old and expensive.

 

[Trolfoli]

Is Sekera worth the money?

The better question is do the Kings want to make the playoffs? Without getting another top 4 D to start the year it's going to be a coin flip making the playoffs or not.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I didn't see anything special about Sekeras the entire time he was with the Kings.

He's a suped-up Voynov that's not as good at shooting the puck but better at holding the puck. Again, I ask--if not Sekera, what does our 2nd pairing look like?

He's not the second coming or anything but he's a damn good defender and a guy that can play anywhere that will ease Doughty's minutes.

Re: "nothing special" about his time see the article or I'll dig up some additional stuff later.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

I'd give him Petry's deal and trade Martinez if it needed to be done financially to get it done

 

[kingsfan]

Have a look at the list of UFA Defenseman, its old and expensive.

Why are we limited to just UFA?

I'd rather trade an asset or assets for a D-man on a much more reasonable contract than sign a guy like Sekera to some $5.5 mill contract for seven years.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

Why are we limited to just UFA?

I'd rather trade an asset or assets for a D-man on a much more reasonable contract than sign a guy like Sekera to some $5.5 mill contract for seven years.

Who's trading a second pairing defenseman on a reasonable contract for what the Kings would be willing to give up?