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Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread XV

BruinDust said:
I don't understand how Bonvie still has a job. He's pro scouting director no doubt he had input into every single player they acquired last off-season.

The most penalized player in pro hockey history runs Boston's pro scouting. Think about that.
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I mean it makes sense if you think about it

ODAAT said:
too busy with 4 Nations, we`ll see him acquire little more than a 4th line plug at the deadline, sell nothing
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They aren’t selling. That’s clear. That’s not the Bruin way. It’s a big mistake but it’s what it is.
 
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DKH said:
After yesterday gotta blow it up

I don’t care if the new GM takes 7 10 years we gotta get it right

We need minimum. 5 top 5 picks
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Sweeney is not fixing this mess Dan.
Bruin4 said:
yea, I dont think they would neither. Gibson is still a good goalie, he's just been in Anahiem too long, so he has Value and Sweeney been able to find goalies a lot easier than true number one centers, so I like the idea of moving Swayman if he can bring one back.

Id also move Swayman and Lindholm for Zegras and Gibson if Lindholm would waive. Id do that in a NY minute and then go heavy after Marner or Rantanen with the Cap space that was created.
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Telling you right now ,there is no goalie doing well behind this Bruins team.
 
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Bruin4 said:
A while back I proposed a similar trade.
Gibson and McTavish for Swayman and maybe Coyle.
Then I’d sign McTavish to an 8 year 8 per contract.

I think Gibson is still a top goalie and I think Zegras could be a steal if You get him out of Anaheim. Only thing I don’t like with your deal, not enough Salary going back. Keep merl and send a much larger cap hit back
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That is a huge gamble. Maybe Gibson could be a top goalie in a different situation. And he has actually rebounded for a decent year this year, but we are talking about a player who hasn't played like a top goalie since what 2018, maybe 2019. Huge risk to trade for a goalie on the wrong side of 30 who was bad for 5 straight seasons.
 
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22Brad Park said:
Telling you right now ,there is no goalie doing well behind this Bruins team.
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Your point exactly? lol

JoeIsAStud said:
That is a huge gamble. Maybe Gibson could be a top goalie in a different situation. And he has actually rebounded for a decent year this year, but we are talking about a player who hasn't played like a top goalie since what 2018, maybe 2019. Huge risk to trade for a goalie on the wrong side of 30 who was bad for 5 straight seasons.
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If he comes with McTavish I do it
 
22Brad Park said:
You want to trade away a 26 year old goalie with no one else to take his place And please don't say Gibson.Bruins are not getting McTavish thats a pipe dream ..
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Well the only way I trade him would be for McTavish he was the main piece in that deal. I also think Gibson more than capable .

I’d also move him for Gibson and Zegras as long as Lindholm waives and they take him.
 
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Bruin4 said:
Well the only way I trade him would be for McTavish he was the main piece in that deal. I also think Gibson more than capable .

I’d also move him for Gibson and Zegras as long as Lindholm waives and they take him.
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Yea well I would not trade Swayman unless its sure thing and Zegras is definitely not that.McTavish is not going anywhere is good bet.Gibson would have sunburn from red light going on playing here.
 
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22Brad Park said:
Yea well I would not trade Swayman unless its sure thing and Zegras is definitely not that.McTavish is not going anywhere is good bet.Gibson would have sunburn from red light going on playing here.
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Well more than likely no Anaheim not trading us McTavish for Swayman but my point still standing that Swayman having no trade protection is the Bruins best chip to help acquire that number one Ceneter for the future.

I think it’s a lot easier to find a number one goalie than a number one center and Sweeney has been good at finding goalies. While it’s pretty clear he’s not at finding true number one centers
 
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Gee Wally said:

Technically, mathematically, even historically, it remains too early to say the Bruins are all done.

Realistically, in the court of common sense, in a world where if it bounces like a puck then it’s a puck, their chase for a playoff spot is finished.

The bigger question is where does ownership take it from here? Does Charlie Jacobs have a fix for this sorry, pricey, uninspired, boring lot now far removed from the rough-tumble-and-entertaining bunch his dad purchased for pocket change a half-century ago?
If so, now’s about time to hear it from the younger Jacobs, who’s on record as saying his franchise defines itself by challenging for, and winning, the Stanley Cup.

Uh, Bueller?



When no one else can figure it out, be it players or front office, then it’s on the owner, the corner office on Causeway where the bucks never stop flowing. Even Robert Kraft finally figured, yeah, it was on him when he jumped off the high chair in Foxboro and shook down the thunder in hopes of salvaging the last couple of cobblestones remaining on pot-holed Patriots Way.

Fifty-seven games into their 82-game schedule, parked 11th in the East with a .526 points percentage, this iteration of the Bruins has proven to be not talented enough, not driven enough, just not good enough, to clinch one of the eight seeds in the conference.

Too sloppy on defense in critical moments, especially of late. Too short of offensive scoring talent and touch all season, now four-plus months and counting. Perhaps most concerning, there is little sense of urgency, even now when it’s apparent what condition their condition is in (read: critical).

Their last viable hope is that Jeremy Swayman can start and win, say, 18-20 of their remaining 25 games. Yet, though solid most nights, their No. 1 goaltender has lost more than he’s won this season (18-18-4) and his save percentage (.898) remains an itsy bit below the .900 level that is the get-in figure for goalies considered NHL elite.

Which is to say, Swayman has been very good but not great, though still better than everyone in Black & Gold other than David Pastrnak. He just hasn’t been everything they need, someone to make those big, game-saving, 10-bell stops in huge moments, which inevitably is what makes or breaks franchise goalies. Swayman has been just OK when they needed him to be the best player on the ice.


Meanwhile, upon returning to action, the Bruins will play seven more times prior to the March 7 trade deadline. It portends to be the most critical stretch of days here since November 2005, when a frustrated front office felt the best way to get things going was to deal Joe Thornton to the Sharks.

Did that shake things up? Hell yeah. By the following spring, Thornton was pocketing MVP honors, general manager Mike O’Connell was out on the street, and Harry Sinden, Boss Causeway, was officially on his way to the deep back woods of the front office. Peter Chiarelli then was hired as GM. Five years later, the city was celebrating its first Stanley Cup title since ‘72, and the only Cup in the half-century of Jacobs ownership.

What happens here in the run-up to March 7? For now, GM Don Sweeney and club president Cam Neely have to decide if it’s time to buy or sell. If they’re buying, the needs here are too great, the roster too thin, to take a bonafide stab at winning the Cup this year. If they’re selling, the only big, contractually unfettered asset is Swayman, and while he has been less than hoped for thus far in ‘24-’25, he’s too rare a talent to swap out now at this stage of his career. He could end up Jumbo Joe Deux.

The bigger issue to watch is whether Charlie Jacobs is going to go status quo and keep Sweeney and Neely as co-clerks of the works. Or, will he now, for the first time since truly taking over the operation and promise of the Original Six franchise in recent years, display courage and vision to do whatever it takes to put an entertaining, talented, Cup-worthy team on the ice.

We have watched the talent drain down, the product soften up, ever since Game 7 of the Cup Final here in 2019. When I asked Jacobs last spring, at the club’s end-of-season autopsy, what ownership was doing to improve the product, avoid more postseason failures, he looked dumbstruck. He asked me to repeat the question.

“We did do something,” said a flustered Jacobs. “We fired the coach.” And then he backed his front office.

Some 6-7 months later, they did that again with the coach. And now, not much has changed, although through no lack of effort from interim bench boss Joe Sacco. He inherited a bench that Neely and Sweeney engineered, one clearly not enough to keep the customer(s) satisfied.

Next move to you, Charlie Jacobs, if you have one. Something has to change.
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This might be the best writing I have seen from Dupes in a while.
 
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JoeIsAStud said:
That is a huge gamble. Maybe Gibson could be a top goalie in a different situation. And he has actually rebounded for a decent year this year, but we are talking about a player who hasn't played like a top goalie since what 2018, maybe 2019. Huge risk to trade for a goalie on the wrong side of 30 who was bad for 5 straight seasons.
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If Goalie Bob can turn Korpi into a solid #2 option imagine the potential with Gibson......
 
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KillerMillerTime said:
They blew and completely closed their window because of the failures in the 1st round of the 2015, 2016 & 2017 Drafts. It is that simple. Sweeney picked the wrong guy in all 3 drafts with Senyshyn, Frederic and Vaak. The players taken immediately after in 2015 and 2017 would have fixed their future top 6 holes in Connor\Barzal and Robert Thomas. Then in 2016 with Frederic, Sweeney bypassed Kyrou\ADB.
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In 2015 he was listening to the scouts that had *just* gotten David Pastrnak as a steal. Would you have more or less faith in him if he had gone against what they said after being in the role for a few weeks?

2016... meh. ADB tanked for a reason and the Bruins weren't the only team to pass. At 5 on 5 he scores like Zacha or Coyle over the last 2.5 years and he wouldn't be the primary PP focus of an actual good team like he is in Detroit. Kryou would have been as much of a dice roll as Frederic. Or Adam Fox or Libor Hajek or Cliff Pu or Boris Katchouk. It's a crap shoot by then in the draft and the Bruins took the high floor guy. The idea that you are listing 2016 as a negative when they chose McAvoy over instead of waiver wire Dante Fabbro everyone was drooling over here doesn't exactly point to an unbiased mind here.

2017 I am 100000000% on board. The fact that they had Thomas on their board and then some table banging led them to change course was the wrong call. Especially with how much draft capital they had recently spent on D in the first two rounds the last two years (Zboril, Lindgren, McAvoy, Carlo). I'm way way way way way way way way more angry about that than 2015.

Oates2Neely said:
Trevor Zegras is not a center he’s a LW, and not a good one at that. For the love of god you folks clamoring for Zegras should spend 2-3 games watching a Ducks game. I wouldn’t trade Swayman for 4 Zegras’
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All their fans say he is better in the middle 🤷
 
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wintersej said:
In 2015 he was listening to the scouts that had *just* gotten David Pastrnak as a steal. Would you have more or less faith in him if he had gone against what they said after being in the role for a few weeks?

2016... meh. ADB tanked for a reason and the Bruins weren't the only team to pass. At 5 on 5 he scores like Zacha or Coyle over the last 2.5 years and he wouldn't be the primary PP focus of an actual good team like he is in Detroit. Kryou would have been as much of a dice roll as Frederic. Or Adam Fox or Libor Hajek or Cliff Pu or Boris Katchouk. It's a crap shoot by then in the draft and the Bruins took the high floor guy. The idea that you are listing 2016 as a negative when they chose McAvoy over instead of waiver wire Dante Fabbro everyone was drooling over here doesn't exactly point to an unbiased mind here.

2017 I am 100000000% on board. The fact that they had Thomas on their board and then some table banging led them to change course was the wrong call. Especially with how much draft capital they had recently spent on D in the first two rounds the last two years (Zboril, Lindgren, McAvoy, Carlo). I'm way way way way way way way way more angry about that than 2015.



All their fans say he is better in the middle 🤷
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Sorry but ADB was thought to be riding the coattails of McDavid but proceeded to have another 100 point season with Erie w\o him. He was thought to be too small
by some scouts but was still taken in first third of R2.

Trent Frederic has value, but no where near DeBrincat whom I have seen a ton of since I live in Metro Detroit. Sweeney is paid literally millions a year not to **** up 1st Round picks like he did and he gets no mulligans regarding 2015 because of Pastrnak, who just finished a rookie year where you still didn't know what he was.

Almost everyone on this board draft night 2015 was max pissed about what transpired.

Like I said worst drafting of those 3 spots in almost 20 years, yeah generational bad drafting.
 
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