International hockey competitions may move to NHL-sized ice: IIHF president

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They really should standardize this and make it similiar in every league. 28x60 is a reasonable fit that would still make the game entertaining. Metres should be the right measurement

This thing is one of those that fascinates me about hockey. I truly doubt many other major sports would continue having this kind of weird differences. Fascinating to that it seems to be accepted to among fans and that they aren't complaining more about it.
Same. I think the issue in hockey is that there has not been a true global governing body that would overpower everything else. IIHF never had much power in NA. This could not have happened in many other sports.

For sure throughout the history this been mostly a negative thing to hockey's popularity, as it has practically lead to two different types of hockey played on separate continents.
 
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The NHL committed to it in the 1940's in order to attract fans in the USA, which was a non-hockey playing country, because it fosters a fight culture that could appeal to fans who had no clue what it was like to put on a pair of skates.
The rink specifications originate from the ice surface of the Victoria Skating Rink in Montreal, constructed in 1862, where the first indoor game was played in 1875. Its ice surface measured 204 by 80 feet (62 m × 24 m). The curved corners are said to originate from the design of the Montreal Arena, constructed in 1898. (Ice hockey rink - Wikipedia)

What other sizes were common then?
 
Same. I think the issue in hockey is that there has not been a true global governing body that would overpower everything else. IIHF never had much power in NA. This could not have happened in many other sports.

For sure throughout the history this been mostly a negative thing to hockey's popularity, as it has practically lead two different types of hockey played on separate continents.
In Sweden they could have changed around the year 2000. Now many of the SHL clubs have built new or upgraded their arenas and probably aren't that keen on changing.
 
The seats to be removed would rather be the back row of lower bowl - with the rink widened the new first row(s) would be premium seats.

I don't think they can remove the back two rows...it's all concrete at upper lower bowls so they will have to remove the first rows and fiddle with the height. Anyways the franchise will have a significant loss of revenue.
 
In Sweden they could have changed around the year 2000. Now many of the SHL clubs have built new or upgraded their arenas and probably aren't that keen on changing.

28 meters which is what the Czech, Swedes and I'd addume Finns prefer, is what they're likely to go with when it goes to the IIHF competition committee.
 
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I don't think they can remove the back two rows...it's all concrete at upper lower bowls so they will have to remove the first rows and fiddle with the height. Anyways the franchise will have a significant loss of revenue.

My point being: removing one row would make former 2nd row new 1st, and therefore they charge that row the same as now for 1st row seats. Same is applied to every subsequent row but with one row less, they lose the income from the back row of the lower bowl.
 
Make the rink 25 feet longer by making the each end boards 5 ft. longer, and making the side boards 15ft. longer without making the neutral zone longer. Then do what Burke said by adding 3 ft. on each width sort of like the Finnish size. Make the goals a foot wider. We are going to enter an age where it is all about speed. So the game will have constant fast breaks from end to end. And if the game does stagnant in the offensive zone, it is not as crowded as the offensive team has an extra 7.5 ft. of length. And the defensive teams will crowd the net more because the goals and space behind the goalies are bigger, plus it will make the battle for real estate in front of the net a lot more interesting, and this will also test the offensive team's ability to put pucks near the net and shoot from the perimeter. When the crowded defensive team recovers the puck in front of the net, if the previously-offensive team is too spread out they will get punished on the fast break. The goalies will have a harder time back tracking making fore checking more effective. This will make it harder to sub, shift times might be lower, and the players might be a lot more tired though.
 
Make the rink 25 feet longer by making the each end boards 5 ft. longer, and making the side boards 15ft. longer without making the neutral zone longer. Then do what Burke said by adding 3 ft. on each width sort of like the Finnish size. Make the goals a foot wider. We are going to enter an age where it is all about speed. So the game will have constant fast breaks from end to end. And if the game does stagnant in the offensive zone, it is not as crowded as the offensive team has an extra 7.5 ft. of length. And the defensive teams will crowd the net more because the goals and space behind the goalies are bigger, plus it will make the battle for real estate in front of the net a lot more interesting, and this will also test the offensive team's ability to put pucks near the net and shoot from the perimeter. When the crowded defensive team recovers the puck in front of the net, if the previously-offensive team is too spread out they will get punished on the fast break. The goalies will have a harder time back tracking making fore checking more effective. This will make it harder to sub, shift times might be lower, and the players might be a lot more tired though.
NHL owners aren't removing lower level seating. This is the size that is here to stay.
 
My point being: removing one row would make former 2nd row new 1st, and therefore they charge that row the same as now for 1st row seats. Same is applied to every subsequent row but with one row less, they lose the income from the back row of the lower bowl.
They have to spend probably significant money to pipe it and make where those seats are located to be capable of having ice, and then have to readjust where the board goes in for almost no economic benefit. It makes no sense for them to do it.
 
I do think NHL sized ice is better, on balance. Maybe there's a middle ground like some Finland rinks, but I don't take that side of it. On balance, if you think bigger rinks give more room to the offense then you probably haven't seen how much room it gives to the defense and making the safe play. On the penalty kill, for instance. Get the puck and you are guaranteed, almost, to advance it a zone. Creating a perimeter game. It gives everyone more time and space, and generally that doesn't reward offense.
 
Fasel said today at a press conference in Tampere that the IIHFboard will recommend to the IIHF congress that the World Championships would be played in a 26 meter wide rink starting from the 2021-22 season.
 
Fasel said today at a press conference in Tampere that the IIHFboard will recommend to the IIHF congress that the World Championships would be played in a 26 meter wide rink starting from the 2021-22 season.
And these recommendations tend to pass... Without exception, essentially.
 
And these recommendations tend to pass... Without exception, essentially.

I'm curious if the Swedes and Czechs (and Finns) will try to lobby other federations to vote it down and recommend 28 meters instead. I've seen the Czech league rink measurements posted here and there's almost as much variety there as in Finland, so 28 meters would be easier to do there.
 
Below is a section from an article (in Sportsnet.ca by Mark Spector), an interesting read regarding the NA size sheet vs. Olympic size sheet.

"Currently, IIHF events played outside North America are played on sheets of ice that measure 200 by 100 feet. European leagues are almost exclusively played on the bigger surface, and the extra space has made for a more defensive game with far less body contact.

There are many in North America who would like to see less contact — or more pointedly, less injuries — who have advocated for making NHL rinks larger. Those who prefer more goals, more speed, more hitting and more excitement however, have been almost unanimous in their belief that the smaller NHL surface makes for a better game.
We once asked Finn Teemu Selanne, who grew up playing on the larger surface back home, what the biggest difference was. He gave the example of being on the half-wall just above the hashmarks, and attacking the opponents net.
(We paraphrase here, because it was an unrecorded conversation from several years ago.)
“When I beat the defenceman coming off the wall in the NHL, I take one, maybe two strides and I am at the goal in prime shooting position,” Selanne said. “In Europe, if I beat the defenceman I still need three or four strides to get to the same position. But by then, the other defenceman has come over to cut me off. So now, I have to beat two plays to get the same shot.”

Another issue with European hockey is a team’s unwillingness to forecheck. With more room, defencemen have more time to move the puck successfully before being hit by the oncoming forechecker, who has much further to go on the big surface to execute the hit. Now, having missed on the hit, our forechecker is so far out of position that he has left his team short defensively.
Over time in Europe, that player — or more likely his coach — has decided that it’s just not worth forechecking aggressively at all. Instead, the player falls back to a neutral-zone position, clogging up the ice and making it even harder for teams to create offence.
“It is a different game, especially for the juniors, and the women’s game also,” Fasel said of the smaller ice. “It (produces) another game. For the hockey fan — a different game than we played … even five years ago. The young players here, (Patrik) Laine and (Connor) McDavid, and all of these 19- and 20-year-olds (at the WJC) … can you imagine that these guys would ever be able to play the game at this (speed)? I don’t think so.”

It is simple physics: The bigger ice makes for longer travel times to get to the dangerous scoring areas. Thus, less scoring.
The bigger ice also makes the game appear slower. As such, the lesser speed of the women’s game, though it continues to make gains, is exacerbated on the Olympic surface. So is para ice hockey, formerly known as sledge hockey, better served by the smaller surface.
Fasel believes that new rinks overseas should be built to NHL specs, and that even some older ones can be changed.
“We should be flexible,” he said. “It is possible to do it. To extend is more difficult than to make it smaller.”
As for those who want a bigger surface in the name of less collisions?
Well, Saturday was a day when that dream took a serious hit."
 
Oh great who doesn't prfer brainless dump and chase offense over elaborate passing schemes:huh::huh:
 
IIHF vice secretary Kalervo "The Hutt" Kummola said that Rene Fasel went to see Winnipeg-Florida games in Helsinki last Fall and instead of the usual side seating, he watched them from the end, behind the goals. He literally made the decision to go to NHL rinks after that. No research or studies or input from other IIHF members. :facepalm:
 
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VP Kummola thinks the proposal might still get voted down.

"It is a proposal by the IIHF cabinet, or more like a proposal by Fasel. But I know that all countries do not like it. It is possible that it still gets rejected in the voting."

"I have a feeling the voting at least won't be unanimous."

He doesn't have a clear personal stance on this but he asks why should the non-NA countries vote in favor of this change since big ice is an advantage for them. I think that's sad because this change is supposed to be about what's best for the sport.

Yllätyskäänne! Radikaali sääntömuutos saatetaan kumota – Kalervo Kummola: "Miksi se etu annettaisiin pois?"
 
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Big ice + wider nets would be ideal IMO. More space usually reduces scoring, larger nets would force D to play tighter gaps and really open up the game.
 
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4 year test period for men and U-20 and U-18 junior tournaments. They'll decide on permanent changes after it. IIHF vice secretary Kalervo Kummola wasn't pleased about this and thinks Finnish league will continue to play with 28-26 meter wide rinks. Other leagues/federations also had differing opinion the change. The new Tampere arena will have both 28 and 26 meter rinks
 
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It is simple physics: The bigger ice makes for longer travel times to get to the dangerous scoring areas. Thus, less scoring.

Most rinks in Europe are shorter than the NHL standard though, maybe they should do that instead if "longer travel times" are an issue?
 
Big ice in NHL would kill hockey. Teams would just play like team Finland and games would be super boring. Just stuck five man unit in the middle of ice and stay there whole game. Winning board battles in corners would not matter at all, because they are too far from the net.
 

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