Interesting Info: Part XIV (All Jackets-related "tidbits" in here)

[blahblah]

Great, NOW what am I supposed to do with this pitchfork and torch?

There is a chilli chant that everyone seems up in arms about.

 

[Kev22]

There is a chilli chant that everyone seems up in arms about.

Count me in for sticking a pitchfork in the chili chant.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I'll be honest, I don't even eat chili and I can't figure out why they didn't let it go when Wendy's dropped as a sponsor. Who goes to Bob Evans for chili?

 

[Sore Loser]

I'll be honest, I don't even eat chili and I can't figure out why they didn't let it go when Wendy's dropped as a sponsor. Who goes to Bob Evans for chili?

People who chant for free chili do

If anything, I've always thought the chant a little funny. Even when the team was terrible, the arena would be loud during those chants.

 

[NotWendell]

I'll be honest, I don't even eat chili and I can't figure out why they didn't let it go when Wendy's dropped as a sponsor. Who goes to Bob Evans for chili?

I never understood why Skyline wasn't the sponsor.

 

[SuperGenius]

I never understood why Skyline wasn't the sponsor.

Probably because a bowl of shredded cheese ain't chili.

 

[Mayor Bee]

Probably because a bowl of shredded cheese ain't chili.

Go back to Texas.

 

[pete goegan]

Probably because a bowl of shredded cheese ain't chili.

Or even real food.

 

[blahblah]

For fast food, Skyline is top-notch. Don't eat it much anymore, but my guess is that most of the food that you eat in other establishments aren't even up to the quality of Skyline. After all most people taste buds are satisfied with terrible quality chicken smothered in a sauce so that if it was tofu instead of chicken you wouldn't notice and then call it "good".

If you're stuck-up and want a bowl of chilli to be a bowl of chilli in the traditional sense; you will be disappointed. But if you like your chilli as a condiment or a sauce, it's very good. The chilli doesn't overpower the rest of the items. On a 5 way I can taste the pasta, onions, and beans. Man did I love the 5-ways. The only way I eat Skyline now is as a chilli-bowl with a salad. Just not the same, but I still enjoy it and it's hardly a "bowl of cheese".

I don't get the haters of Skyline and they would make a better sponsor than Bob Evans. That is garbage Chilli there. At least Skyline is somewhat unique. The Bob Evans Chilli is only slightly better than Wendy's and that was made with scrap meat. I wouldn't call either more of a "food" over Skyline.

None of that is anywhere close to my Texas style chilli, but mine is also $6 a bowl my cost. I'd have to sell that for maybe $12 in a restaurant.

 

[Heinze 57]

People love to rip on Cincinnati for our skyline chili.

More for me, I say. I work a block away from a skyline and I eat there probably once a week.

 

[theD86]

What their saying.....

The Jackets have the media a buzz with their play:

• Columbus may have opened some eyes around the league during these past 12 days, showing a lot of fight against a much more skilled team and taking Pittsburgh to six. They mounted comeback after comeback, even closing a 4-0 lead to 4-3 in the end. But to create believers, they’ll have to treat this as the start, not the apex. Look at the Islanders, who also took Pittsburgh to six games in the first round last spring. They followed that up by finishing 14th in the East this season. A few things, however, are working in Columbus’s favor, starting with their front office. In the hands of President of Hockey Operations John Davidson, who laid the groundwork for St. Louis’ turnaround, and savvy general manager Jarmo Kekelainen, also formerly of the Blues’ front office, the Blue Jackets, unlike the Islanders, have capable leadership to build a competitive team. And on the ice, they have some rugged veteran experience in defenseman Fedor Tyutin, Jack Johnson and Dubinsky, and some promising young talent—namely Atkinson, Matt Calvert and 2010 first-rounder Ryan Johansen, who led the team with 33 goals and 63 points this season. There is certainly some promise there, and mismanagement won’t be an issue in Columbus.

http://nhl.si.com/2014/04/28/penguins-eliminate-blue-jackets-game-6-evgeni-malkin-sidney-crosby/


http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/30401/series-loss-still-a-step-forward-for-columbus


http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/puck-rakers/2014/04/a-final-push-falls-short.html


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...6-young-blue-jackets-poised-for-bright-future


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...-upset-bid-with-game-6-victory-020606483.html

 

[Mayor Bee]

For fast food, Skyline is top-notch. Don't eat it much anymore, but my guess is that most of the food that you eat in other establishments aren't even up to the quality of Skyline. After all most people taste buds are satisfied with terrible quality chicken smothered in a sauce so that if it was tofu instead of chicken you wouldn't notice and then call it "good".

If you're stuck-up and want a bowl of chilli to be a bowl of chilli in the traditional sense; you will be disappointed. But if you like your chilli as a condiment or a sauce, it's very good. The chilli doesn't overpower the rest of the items. On a 5 way I can taste the pasta, onions, and beans. Man did I love the 5-ways. The only way I eat Skyline now is as a chilli-bowl with a salad. Just not the same, but I still enjoy it and it's hardly a "bowl of cheese".

I don't get the haters of Skyline and they would make a better sponsor than Bob Evans. That is garbage Chilli there. At least Skyline is somewhat unique. The Bob Evans Chilli is only slightly better than Wendy's and that was made with scrap meat. I wouldn't call either more of a "food" over Skyline.

None of that is anywhere close to my Texas style chilli, but mine is also $6 a bowl my cost. I'd have to sell that for maybe $12 in a restaurant.

One throwaway line triggers a four-paragraph response? Are you turning into me?

 

[blahblah]

One throwaway line triggers a four-paragraph response? Are you turning into me?

No, it took two.

Regardless, it needed said...

 

[SuperGenius]

No, it took two.

Regardless, it needed said...

If there had been three, you would've added "I don't care"

But, on that note, I think we've covered enough of the chili topic for this thread. Onward!

 

[dnmccoy]

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 39m
Puck-rakers: #CBJ management informed Todd Richards and his staff today that they want to keep them long-term

I like this...he seems solid to me. Lets see what he can do with more than a one year deal looming...I think we've got a bright future!

 

[NotWendell]

We haven't had a decent bowl of chili in this town since the Colorado Rose closed. (Sorry SG, just had to get that in there!)

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Good article

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/30401/series-loss-still-a-step-forward-for-columbus

“Yeah, it’s hard to leave the ice at the end of any year. You fall short of your goal. It’s tough no matter what. Even though we came close, close isn’t good enough. Doesn’t really make it any more satisfying. It’s pretty disheartening no matter what,†Jack Johnson told ESPN.com.

The defenseman was the team’s emotional heart and soul and he insisted that the bigger picture discussion is best left to others.

“I don’t think many guys in the room are pulling positives out of losing in the first round. That’s for people outside of this room. We’re a room that probably had higher expectations for ourselves than anyone. Sure we gave them all they could handle but that wasn’t good enough for us,†said Johnson, who had two assists Monday and finished the series with seven points.

 

[db2011]

You know that I'm as much a Howson supporter as anyone here, but I have to ask when the comparisons between he and Kekalainen will stop?

Can't we all just agree that the CBJ is in better shape than it's ever been before, and that both guys contributed to the success of the team? Let's face it, the day JD was hired spelled the end for Scott Howson one way or another. Everyone who was paying attention - and most people who weren't - knew that he was going to bring in his own staff, and that's what happened. The culture change has been evident almost from the day Davidson was hired, and I think that starts at the top and works it's way down.

Yes, Howson acquired most of this team, and I commend him for it. He did a hell of a job. But, the changes at the top have had a direct effect on the on-ice product. The firing of Howson was as much a PR move as it was anything else. The entire organization needed a kick in the pants; unfortunately it was at his expense.

All due respect, while much of your post is reasonable, I just don't think one season, or a season and a half, are nearly enough time to call a comparison between GMs exhaustive. We would be doing a disservice to our own analysis as fans to pack this one in. For one thing, we still need to see how JK's draft pans out.

I will say this, that I do think the new structure up top, which includes JK, has had an impact on the performance of a roster that is essentially Howson's. I give Howson full marks for the current roster, but I'm not convinced it would have performed this way without JK's and JD's presence.

Decades from now maybe? There isn't even enough information yet to assess Keks' contribution, so a proper comparison hasn't even begun, let alone ended. But this is exactly the sort of question that historians will kick around for decades. Don't hold your breath.



You could have picked an easier thing to agree on. An argument could be made that with JD's attitude adjustment and Howson's players, a random stuffed shirt as GM could have led to just as much success on the ice thus far. Keep in mind I'm not anti-Kek, I just don't think he's done anything in the last year that really changed the trajectory for the team.

quoting this because I agree

 

[db2011]

sorry Howson-ites, but much like how the new president gets credit for turning around the economy, its normally the policies and procedures put in place by the outgoing president that did it, no different here...GMJK will receive credit for how the team is currently producing...just a way of life...

But isn't a one of the great things about HF that we can distinguish "ways of life" from truth?

EDIT- or at least think we can

 

[Sore Loser]

I will say this, that I do think the new structure up top, which includes JK, has had an impact on the performance of a roster that is essentially Howson's. I give Howson full marks for the current roster, but I'm not convinced it would have performed this way without JK's and JD's presence.

So in gist, what you're saying is that you agree with what I said? Because that's exactly how I finished my statement - that Howson put the team together, but the culture change was evident under JD and Jarmo. Thus, both regimes are to thank.

My basic point is that, is it really going to do any good to keep comparing how many of the players on the current team were acquired by Scott Howson vs. how many were acquired by Jarmo Kekalainen? I saw the same deductive reasoning used on at least two different posts in the same day. It gets old quickly, especially when the team is performing so well.

 

[db2011]

So in gist, what you're saying is that you agree with what I said? Because that's exactly how I finished my statement - that Howson put the team together, but the culture change was evident under JD and Jarmo. Thus, both regimes are to thank.

My basic point is that, is it really going to do any good to keep comparing how many of the players on the current team were acquired by Scott Howson vs. how many were acquired by Jarmo Kekalainen? I saw the same deductive reasoning used on at least two different posts in the same day. It gets old quickly, especially when the team is performing so well.

In gist, sure, I agree that's how you ended your statement.

I'm saying for me the jury is still out on JK because we could be wrong about his impact on the current roster, a year on the job isn't a big enough sample, and if Wennberg, Rychel, Dano and the rest of last year's draft noticeably bomb, that will affect my evaluation of him. GM is a such a "deep" position- if the team regresses next year even that will reflect on Howson, who will have been gone for 2 years by then. In some ways I frankly think JK got lucky this year, since Horton had a limited impact and his other moves seem negligible.

If I were an owner, I'd look at it that way, anyway, when thinking of GMs to hire. It may get "old" talking about Howson but that doesn't make it insignificant.

 

[Crede777]

I think a major difference between 2009 and this year is that in 2009 Hitchcock made the players look better than they actually were. His system masked problems by rookie Steve Mason, Mike Commodore, etc.

This year, and this isn't really an insult to Todd Richards, but I think the players made Richards' decisions look better than they actually were. By that I mean we have a team of guys who know what to do and how to do it, they don't need a coach or other players telling them what to do. So they're able to operate without a lot of oversight and keep themselves accountable.

Also, this year we are being carried by our youth. In 2009, yeah we had Mason performing well, but Voracek was still a fringe guy and Brassard missed most of the year. Our play (not counting Mason's 2 months) was carried by Nash, Malhotra, Hejda, etc.

 

[EDM]

I had the pleasure of having lunch last May with one of the Jackets VP's. She was quite emphatic that the cultural change came about thru JD. She said that about a month after he took over each Jacket was called to JD's office to meet with him. AS each player st down, JD turned on the film of various times where each player had, shall we say, less than stellar moments of effort during a game. Supposedly JD got in the face of each player ans said, "That kind of crap is going to end right now. If I ever see any of that happen again, you will be shipped our of here before you can get your pads off. Do you understand me? Never again do you take a moment off if you want to stay on this team". Now I don't know how much the VP embellished. But from what I got of that story, in his first meeting with each player JD scared the crap out of everyone with whom he spoke.

 

[cbjfaninmo]

Count me in for sticking a pitchfork in the chili chant.

The chili chant needs to go. It is truly bush league and has no place in a NHL arena. Stick a pitchfork in it, it is done!

 

[cbjfaninmo]

I had the pleasure of having lunch last May with one of the Jackets VP's. She was quite emphatic that the cultural change came about thru JD. She said that about a month after he took over each Jacket was called to JD's office to meet with him. AS each player st down, JD turned on the film of various times where each player had, shall we say, less than stellar moments of effort during a game. Supposedly JD got in the face of each player ans said, "That kind of crap is going to end right now. If I ever see any of that happen again, you will be shipped our of here before you can get your pads off. Do you understand me? Never again do you take a moment off if you want to stay on this team". Now I don't know how much the VP embellished. But from what I got of that story, in his first meeting with each player JD scared the crap out of everyone with whom he spoke.

Beautiful. Accountibility.