Har! No. I was trying to describe a trade where a LTIR $6 Million dollar player would come over to Edmonton, and a similar $6 Million dollar contract would be moved out. Not a $120 Million over 8 years Manning contract for a $4-5 Million dollar contract. Good one though. Sarcasm alive and well on these Oiler boards.
I suppose I wasn't clear. I believe the Oilers would have to add. I don't see them having to add a 1st to move Lucic in this scenario. If I am wrong, and the author of the article is wrong, then so be it. We are no worse off than before.
Okay? I believe a trade is possible. ONE. LAST. TIME.
Right... which is why I posted that you have to find an uninsured contract...
And who is this player you speak of that makes roughly 6 million, has 3-5 years left after this year, and is on LTIR, but doesn’t have an insured contract? Please name me even one.
What sarcasm? You’re saying it doesn’t matter how bad his contract is because it apparently somehow beats not having to pay a player, or have that player count against your capspace. I’m saying it absolutely does. An insured LTIR contract is basically a get out of jail free card. Why would a team pass that up?
There are ways to get rid of him without paying a 1st. I even gave you an example. But that doesn’t mean you can just wish a fictional scenario into existence.
I think what TFHockey is missing here is that an insured LTIR contract for a player who will never play again(Bolland/Hossa, Pronger before, Marc Savard....etc....) are essentially non-existent. They don't matter. The team doesn't pay the contract, and the contract doesn't count against the cap..... Other than the fact that some third party insurance company is on the hook to pay that player, as far as any team is concerned, that contract is null and void. Done. Meaningless. Non-existent. Player doesn't count against the cap, doesn't take up a roster spot, doesn't actually cost the team a dime. They have zero value. It is completely pointless to trade them.
Yes, a trade could happen. But not for something that doesn't exist. As The Nuge pointed out or I have in the past, if we are trading Lucic, the most likely scenario is taking on a bad contract in return, or adding a valuable piece with him, prospect or draft pick in order to get something of use in return. One last time, an insured LTIR contract is not a bad contract. For all intents and purposes, it is non-existent. It's like trading for a ninth round pick. Doesn't exist.