In case anyone still thinks McDavid isn’t a great playoff performer, know this.

[nbwingsfan]

his logic is flawed.

He gives props to MacKinnon for having 7 goals in game 7's but Mackinnon has never won a game 7. Then he calls McDavid a loser for not winning a cup.

So Mackinnon getting 7 goals in game 7's = great according to him, but the team still loses then he argues that McDavid putting up points but not winning a cup makes him a loser.

I am confused here.

All he's shown is that one player can't do it all by themselves.

MacKinnon has 1G/1A (and -3) in 5 game 7s and they’re all loses.

Talk about being a loser ….

 

[Oilslick941611]

MacKinnon has 1G/1A (and -3) in 5 game 7s and they’re all loses.

Talk about being a loser ….

i didn't fact check his stats. oopps. Looks even worse for MacK, king of EN goals and points.

 

[Draiskull]

Let’s say it’s game 7 and McDavid puts up 5pts, but Pickard/Skinner let in 7 while he’s not even on the ice.

McDavid deserves criticism because he didn’t score 8 and “will” his team to a Cup?

Sounds like game 1 vs LA in the first round this year.

Kings won despite McDavid willing his team to tie the game up.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Sounds like game 1 vs LA in the first round this year.

Kings won despite McDavid willing his team to tie the game up.
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Oh I know, and there were still a very concerning amount of “hockey fans” who blamed the loss on him.

My favourite was @bambamcam4ever saying it’s his fault because the points all came later in the game

 

[Draiskull]

This thread isn't about the Leafs, don't make it about them and don't be petty. I'm only keeping it respectful right now because you have a Palestine flag in your avatar.

well, you obviously have the crystal ball since you are sure McDavid isnt winning anything this year.

edit: nvm.. i either missed the ' probably' in your post or you ninja edited it.

 

[1specter]

well, you obviously have the crystal ball since you are sure McDavid isnt winning anything this year.

edit: nvm.. i either missed the ' probably' in your post or you ninja edited it.

I put probably from the beginning, there was no ninja edit, it's just an opinion which I'm free to have. I also don't think the Leafs will win this year, but that's what I think every year. You can check my post history, as of now I still think Dallas and Florida are the favourites to come out of their conferences.

 

[Elvs]

It is a team sport. I don't think anyone argues that.

But winning the Stanley Cup, especially in a leading role, does and should count to a player's legacy. If you don't think so it's clear to me that you've never seen your team win, and I feel sad for you.

Either way, I think McDavid definately will win a cup or two in his career. Actually, I think he'll win it this year already.

 

[King Woodballs]

Have you been living under a rock?

There’s 100 places you can look, but start simply at just the “McDavid too good to not win a cup” threads or the early stages of LA vs EDM threads.

Hell there were posters blaming McDavid for losing GM 1 despite putting up 4pts because “all the points came later in the game”

Then you are taking a trolls bate

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Oh I know, and there were still a very concerning amount of “hockey fans” who blamed the loss on him.

My favourite was @bambamcam4ever saying it’s his fault because the points all came later in the game

It was his fault that LA scored the winning goal right after, yes.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Then you are taking a trolls bate

They ain’t trolls my man. They genuinely believe that.

 

[edevils]

The obvious answer is a lot is dependant on how much help you have.

When you look at MacKinnon, outside of that 2022 team that was loaded and took advantage of a frozen cap to get full value out of his bargain contract at the time to load up the roster ... MacK has serious problems getting out of round 1 or 2 otherwise with similar/a bit better rosters than what McDavid has (Draisaitl is great, but so is Makar).

Wayne and Mario plain and simple never won anything without basically All-Star teams around them. Gretzky even some how managed to lose to an Oilers team without Messier, Coffey, Kurri, Fuhr, etc. (1992 loses to the Oilers who's best player with Vincent Damphousse). Mario was having problems just making the playoffs until Pittsburgh basically just kept adding players from other championship teams (Coffey, Mullen, etc.) until he could win.

McDavid has the third highest playoff PPG in NHL history in what is frankly a better era (the goaltending is way better, the coaching is way better, the D-Men are way better than the 80s/early 90s), he obviously brings it come post-season time.

If what you're posing is the answer to winning a championship, why aren't superstars cutting their salary by a third? The saved salary can be used to get more "help".

 

[hamzarocks]

2022 G1 vs Kings - May 6th 2025 Connor Mcdavid is the best hockey player anyone ever has seen.

He has been the best player in the NHL playoffs for 4 years in a row.

He had the best playoff run ever last year.

I dont like the Oilers but I want to see him get a cup still

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

They ain’t trolls my man. They genuinely believe that.

It's easier to consider those posters trolls , even if it means lying to ourselves , just in order to have any hope for the future of our species

 

[M2Beezy]

I am sorry what? You can't win multiple Stanley Cups in a year.

Im so sick of these limitations people put on McDavids ability

 

[landy]

MacKinnon has never won a game 7… ever.

Also absolutely hilarious you rip on McDavid for “scoring 4pts but letting in 3” but then goes on to defend MacKinnon using *checks notes*… points.

The lack of self awareness is almost too good to be true.

I know its hard to understand this concept, but winning in 6 is better than losing in 7, especially when 6 is the clinching game for the Cup. MacKinnon can never win another series in his career and he is still a Stanley Cup Champion.

 

[landy]

So if winning a single cup makes you a winner then Brandon Saad and 100s others currently playing >>> McDavid

enjoy your one shot wonders.

McDavid will be on a gunning for the cup ride year after year for the next decade.

As will MacKinnon/Makar. I wish they had the Pacific to beat up and start trying in the WCF, but McDavid may have challenges finally when he goes to the Atlantic.

Were not talknig about Pat Maroon here.

 

[PuckG]

Can't wait to watch him win one for the Leafs

One of your stars are more likely to come to Edmonton than McDavid to Toronto.

 

[CostaRica]

Yah but what about his boring personality

 

[BagHead]

I'm not a huge fan of McElbows, but he isn't the reason the Oilers haven't won a Cup. He's the reason they nearly have.

 

[Praetorian Caps]

Yikes. Not sure what else the man could do to help his team win games

I guess they want him to make pretty rainbows come out of the puck every time he shoots or passes it?

 

[PuckG]

Some of you dorks are watching the wrong sport if you think one player can “will” his team to the Stanley Cup while playing an absolute maximum of 30 minutes in a 60 minute game. Absolutely goofy statements in here and no comprehension of the sport.

 

[PuckG]

As will MacKinnon/Makar. I wish they had the Pacific to beat up and start trying in the WCF, but McDavid may have challenges finally when he goes to the Atlantic.

Were not talknig about Pat Maroon here.

The Avs are out. They’re not beating anyone up. Besides that, they went a whopping 5-4 against the Pacific playoff teams this season.

This is a shell of the Avs Cup winning team from a few years back and let’s not pretend otherwise.

 

[edevils]

Let’s say it’s game 7 and McDavid puts up 5pts, but Pickard/Skinner let in 7 while he’s not even on the ice.

McDavid deserves criticism because he didn’t score 8 and “will” his team to a Cup?

Where did this scenario come from?

 

[Soundwave]

The Avs are out. They’re not beating anyone up. Besides that, they went a whopping 5-4 against the Pacific playoff teams this season.

This is a shell of the Avs Cup winning team from a few years back and let’s not pretend otherwise.

Yeah they're not even close. That 2022 Avs team would've beat that Stars team in 4 or 5 games, especially with no Robertson and no Heiskanen for the Stars.

 

[mcdingdong]

I know its hard to understand this concept, but winning in 6 is better than losing in 7, especially when 6 is the clinching game for the Cup. MacKinnon can never win another series in his career and he is still a Stanley Cup Champion.

Maybe, but he'd end up behind McDavid in playoff MVPs.

This thread is funny. Nobody has done more individually for their team in playoffs in decades.