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OT: Impending Oil drilling in Hermosa Beach where many LA Kings live--Anybody care?

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triplcrown

triplcrown

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E&B Oil wants to drill 30 wells in Hermosa Beach:

http://www.nobpinhb.com/

The drilling may include fracking as well (just don't expect the oil company to admit it).

Many LA Kings players and employees live in HB, or nearby.

This usually happens in poor areas, but Hermosa Beach is the exception. Apparently, the oil money to be made
is worth going after a prosperous neighborhood, and risking activist blowback not experienced
in most low-income zones, where resistance to such ventures is generally low.

As residents of HB, will there be any Kings, or nearby fans out there, who will come out against the drilling?


Sorry for this being non-hockey.

Sometimes real life intrudes where hobbies and recreation reside.
This is an example.
Sigh. :(
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Nope, I don't care if the oil company meets the regulations that are required and the regulators are doing their job it shouldn't be a problem.

What evidence does the OP have that fracking that isn't sanctioned by the appropriate authorities will be occurring? California really needs to lose the anti-business attitude before their tax base has completely disappeared.
 
I care about the environment, but I care more about the state as a whole. I'm good with this.

I'm also good with you poisoning...as long as it's kingsholygrail's family and not mine. :p:
 
Drill away, America as a whole needs to get away from foreign Oil.

Create some Jobs, and get the middle class back on it's feet.
 
damacles1156 said:
Drill away, America as a whole needs to get away from foreign Oil.

Create some Jobs, and get the middle class back on it's feet.
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About 60% of US oil consumption is from oil produced in the US. From there, 30% of imported oil is from Canada and 10% is from Mexico. That's about 75% of oil from North America. That's a lot of oil.

Not that I disagree with your second statement. As long as the drilling meets all regulations, I see no real harm in it.

http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/article/foreign_oil_dependence.cfm
 
I live in a brand new community in Brea that used to be all oil drilling. As a matter of fact, they are STILL drilling oil here...they set aside some lots in between all the houses to drill from time time, setting up temporary rigs.

There is one not 100 yards from me.

I don't give a ****. Not really. I signed all the disclaimers when I bought, noticed all the methane testing ports on my house. What the **** can I do? That's life in southern California.

So, to answer your question: No, I don't really care. As a matter of fact, I don't give two *****.

P.S. "Brea" means "tar" (oil) in Spanish. So there ya go.
 
Since we are kind of getting off on a tangent here, I recommend that folks read Physics for Future Presidents. It was written by a physics professor at Cal Berkeley and gives you a pretty good perspective on why fossil fuels aren't going away anytime soon. It also touches on what the alternative sources of fuel might be in the future, and touches on some other subjects.
 
Until this car becomes affordable (and it will someday), drilling where there's oil to be had is inevitable. It's up to neighbors and local governments to play the NIMBY card.

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As a person who grew up and still lives in the south bay, I really hope this doesn't happen.
 
Face Wash said:
Until this car becomes affordable (and it will someday), drilling where there's oil to be had is inevitable. It's up to neighbors and local governments to play the NIMBY card.

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Which is lame, because the people that use the NIMBY card are probably some of the biggest energy consumers in the area.
 
No problem with it. My problem is the government gives liability caps to the oil companies where there should be none. What this means is, if there is an accident/spill, the amount the oil company has to pay out of pocket is capped. The tax payers pick up the rest of the bill.

So other than that, shouldn't be a problem. Hopefully all goes well otherwise the tax base will be flipping the bill.

Ron Paul says it better than me. :)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/06/ron-paul/too-much-government-in-the-gulf/
 
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Face Wash said:
Until this car becomes affordable (and it will someday), drilling where there's oil to be had is inevitable. It's up to neighbors and local governments to play the NIMBY card.

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Such a great ride. I love it, one of the best cars ever.
 
KingKopitar11 said:
Such a great ride. I love it, one of the best cars ever.
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Yes my brother purchased one and I test drove it. I am not into cars like he is but I will say without a doubt the best car I have ever driven and it is not even close. We have a Lexus RX and ES and the TESLA blows by them. I think it is the feeling when it accelerates that makes it so amazing. Also the knowledge that you don't need to buy gas. I do kick myself as I had the stock at $35.00 and sold it at $45.00 :cry:
 
Pucknut50 said:
Yes my brother purchased one and I test drove it. I am not into cars like he is but I will say without a doubt the best car I have ever driven and it is not even close. We have a Lexus RX and ES and the TESLA blows by them. I think it is the feeling when it accelerates that makes it so amazing. Also the knowledge that you don't need to buy gas. I do kick myself as I had the stock at $35.00 and sold it at $45.00 :cry:
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Beautiful car, no doubt. Finally a hybrid/electric that doesn't look like a Birkenstock with wheels. The range really kinda sucks though. ~250 miles on a full charge is ok for city driving but not much else. I'm sure they'll get better over time, ideally have some kind of user swappable battery system but until that happens, it's really only good as a second car, and that's a huge investment for a second ride.
 
Bandit said:
Beautiful car, no doubt. Finally a hybrid/electric that doesn't look like a Birkenstock with wheels. The range really kinda sucks though. ~250 miles on a full charge is ok for city driving but not much else. I'm sure they'll get better over time, ideally have some kind of user swappable battery system but until that happens, it's really only good as a second car, and that's a huge investment for a second ride.
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I agree, the range problem can't be fixed with our current battery technology. The weight and size of the batteries it would take to double the range of the car would probably make the design not viable. I know that Tesla is working on supercharging systems that would cut the amount of time it would take to re-charge the batteries, but they are still a long way from making that happen.

The other issue is with the volatility of the batteries. At some point down the line we will likely see a picture of a Tesla burned to the ground. Re-chargable lithium ion batteries can overheat due to overcharging or some type of internal damage, see the Boeing 787. Once a lithium battery fire gets going it is almost impossible to put out. Halon doesn't work, it takes a lot of water.
 
I say it is bad. I'm of the uninformed opinion that anyone or anything with power has only their self interest in mind. So with that, I'm anti-politician, anti-big business, anti-rich guy or pretty much anyone involved with this project.
 
Pucknut50 said:
Yes my brother purchased one and I test drove it. I am not into cars like he is but I will say without a doubt the best car I have ever driven and it is not even close. We have a Lexus RX and ES and the TESLA blows by them. I think it is the feeling when it accelerates that makes it so amazing. Also the knowledge that you don't need to buy gas. I do kick myself as I had the stock at $35.00 and sold it at $45.00 :cry:
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Yes it's so amazing you can charge the car on a regular output. Such a smooth ride and 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. I love it.
 
Buddy The Elf said:
I say it is bad. I'm of the uninformed opinion that anyone or anything with power has only their self interest in mind. So with that, I'm anti-politician, anti-big business, anti-rich guy or pretty much anyone involved with this project.
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signed,

Dr. Floyd Ferris and Wesley Mouch
 
KingKopitar11 said:
Yes it's so amazing you can charge the car on a regular output. Such a smooth ride and 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. I love it.
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Did you go for the super charger? My brother sets the charging time at 12:01 am when the kw per hour rate goes way down. Wake up it's fully charged. One problem my sister in-law loves the car so much she is now taking it to work during the week.:shakehead
 
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