Ill-timed Stone puck dive causes Heiskanen to blow out his knee

[On The Prowl]

You play to uphold the standards of the NHL and with respect to the other players. You don't play to blow someone's knee out. You don't give the opposition a powerplay with 12 minutes left in the third and down by a goal. It's a two minute penalty any day of the week, when he was trying to draw a trip himself.

Have you seen what Pros in any league will do to eachother to win a game? This isnt sunday league hockey, this is the league Matt Cooke, Raffi Torres, Ryan Kesler, etc played years of dirty POS hockey.

 

[DuklaNation]

Years ago, there would have been quick on ice retribution against Stone. Now? Excuses are made. Today's NHL in a nutshell.

 

[BB79]

He has a head of stone..I'll see myself out

 

[RapidKnight]

This angle shows the play better than the others. In my opinion, the play is not malicious at all because Stone’s center of mass doesn’t change at all. He is clearly impeded beforehand when his right skate begins to pivot counterclockwise around the left skate toe pick. He shouldn’t have sprawled out to reach the puck but the play doesn’t look malicious at all. I doubt most players make the split second decision to give up on the play given they didn’t trip themselves.

 

[karhukissa]

Years ago, there would have been quick on ice retribution against Stone. Now? Excuses are made. Today's NHL in a nutshell.

Yeah soft Hintz gives him a little push and that's it. Hockey will get more dirty without any threat of really having to face the music.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Hintz taps his skate but that doesn’t explain the Superman dive into Heiskanen’s knee.

There wasn't a superman dive into Heiskanen's knee.

That's called slow motion video.

 

[WillTheThrill]

Doesn't look malicious to me

 

[Three On Zero]

-Star player
-For one of VGK/FLA/TB
-On a play that resulted in an injury

= No supplemental discipline, as is tradition.

If anybody seriously thought the league wasn’t rigged before seeing how differently Stone and Kucherov are treated than McDavid, hopefully the literal last few days has changed your mind. Though I bet Bettman and Parros never expected to have to so blatantly play Get Out of Suspension Free cards so soon after making an “example” of Connor.

This is….. a take….

 

[Silky Johnson]

Most of these takes saying that it was a dirty play strike me as being done by people who never played hockey or a contact sport.

The game is so fast and it happens in a split second. He is clearly tracking the puck and gets tripped a bit and falls into Heiskanen. That could have easily played out with him getting the worst of it.

Watch it at full speed and try to see how much you can consider in that amount of time...

 

[Moloch]

so any update on miro, or no?

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Most of these takes saying that it was a dirty play strike me as being done by people who never played hockey or a contact sport.

The game is so fast and it happens in a split second. He is clearly tracking the puck and gets tripped a bit and falls into Heiskanen. That could have easily played out with him getting the worst of it.

Watch it at full speed and try to see how much you can consider in that amount of time...

Exactly.

People watch these things in slow motion and project all this intent onto things that happen in an instant.

 

[TheBeard]

people who never played hockey or a contact sport.

People who say this are usually the ones who have never played hockey before.

Exactly.

People watch these things in slow motion and project all this intent onto things that happen in an instant.

There’s also a difference between dirty with malicious intent and irresponsibly dirty. No doubt Stone lunged, but I doubt his intent was to injury Miro.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Yeah soft Hintz gives him a little push and that's it. Hockey will get more dirty without any threat of really having to face the music.

Hockey is a dirty game. People have been saying it will get more dirty since they put the fight instigator rule in - and they were right.

 

[ManofSteel55]

People who say this are usually the ones who have never played hockey before.


There’s also a difference between dirty with malicious intent and irresponsibly dirty. No doubt Stone lunged, but I doubt his intent was to injury Miro.

I know Stone has a reputation as being dirty, but there was a stick there. I'm not saying he didn't do it on purpose, I'm saying that even a slight bit of interference from the stick could have interrupted his skating so it was a legitimate fall. So yeah. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I am saying that we don't really know because he could have legitimately lost his balance from the stick.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

so any update on miro, or no?

In this case, no news might be good news, or they're looking for a 2nd opinion. But who knows

 

[behemolari]

hate to see this happening to this player with this timing R.I.P four nations welcome three nations

 

[Rorschach]

Basically a chop block.

 

[Silky Johnson]

People who say this are usually the ones who have never played hockey before.

What a silly response.

That's what people who have no good comeback would say.

It's a really fast game and its very obnoxious constantly listening to the armchair quarterbacks here be so confident about things they have never experienced.

I played Major Junior and CIAU which is high enough level to know that that was neither dirty, deliberate or irresponsible. It's just a thing that happened.

It wasn't raising an elbow or throwing your knee out there. He was tracking the puck the whole time and got tripped/fell.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Basically a chop block.

Rule 44 - Clipping44.1 Clipping - Clipping is the act of throwing the body across or below theknees of an opponent from any direction. A player may not deliver a check in a “clipping” manner, nor lowerhis own body position to deliver a check on or below an opponent’sknees. An illegal “low hit” is a check that is delivered by a player who mayor may not have both skates on the ice, with his sole intent to checkthe opponent in the area of his knees. A player may not lower hisbody position to deliver a check to an opponent’s knees.

44.2 Minor Penalty - A player who commits these infractions will beassessed a minor penalty for “clipping.”

44.3 Major Penalty - If an injury occurs as a result of this “clipping” check,the player must be assessed a major penalty (see 44.5).

44.4 Match Penalty - The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a matchpenalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberatelyinjured his opponent by clipping.

44.5 Game Misconduct Penalty - A game misconduct penalty must beassessed anytime a major penalty is applied for injuring an opponentby clipping.

44.6 Fines and Suspensions – Refer to Rule 23.6 – Fines andSuspensions – Physical Infractions Category.There are no specified fines or suspensions for clipping, however,supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at hisdiscretion (refer to Rule 28).

I guess the NHL Rulebook's more of a suggestion anyways, right?

 

[Panthaz89]

No offense but the last thing I'd ever want to do when diving is put my head into someone's legs...definitely not intentional unless Stone is braindead.

 

[McShogun99]

Hockey is a dirty game. People have been saying it will get more dirty since they put the fight instigator rule in - and they were right.

The instigator rule wouldn't be a problem if the refs and league did a better job protecting the players. Fines need to bigger and suspensions longer. Players don't care about 5K fines or 1-2 game suspensions.

 

[ManofSteel55]

The instigator rule wouldn't be a problem if the refs and league did a better job protecting the players. Fines need to bigger and suspensions longer. Players don't care about 5K fines or 1-2 game suspensions.

The $5K fine is the maximum in the CBA, so the league can't just change that one. I agree that for most players, its nothing.

 

[theVladiator]

Weird play.

Diving head first into somebody's path isn't what I'd call dirty. More reckless to one's own health than that of the other player. Was interesting to see that Stone actually managed to make contact with the puck before colliding with Heiskanen.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Looks like Stone was diving to sell the tripping from Hintz.

I agree he was embellishing the ' tap' by Hintz and i nth process injured another player. Classless and gutless.
Embellishment has to be cracked down on by the NHL. Unfortunately, 'football' antics have crept into hockey and the other football. I think flopping has always been a part of the NBA game.
It is tough on the refs because these guys are so good at it and not afraid to dive at another player or into the boards to get a call.
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[TheBeard]

Just once I want a season to not have a Stone controversy.