Post-Game Talk: If only Sullivan could get goaltending.

Honour Over Glory

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I know I would be asking for all passports, keys to their vehicles, cell phones and lock them in a room. Throw a bag with a single bottle of water and one snickers bar and lets see whom comes out alive... After 9 days.


A Battle Rumble we can get behind, @ColePens .

Thing is after 5 seasons he hasn’t had an answer. It’s gotten to the point where the voice gets stale. Sullivan isn’t a bad coach at all and that might shock you to hear from me, but his voice has gone stale and it’s been that way a while. He’s not Bylsma where he’d fail if he left. Sullivan will be a long tenured coach for another 10+ years. But on the Penguins he’s so close to the core that he just can’t see the bigger picture and he has gone back to old methods that aren’t viable in Todays nhl.

He really has no solve. Hextall can make 5 amazing moves right now and Sullivan will still prioritize his core guys first. That’s been the issue.
 

Honour Over Glory

#firesully
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We are back in outscoring our opponents mode in shootouts. We shouldn't need to

Score more than 4 goals a night. Losing too ma
Honestly all jokes aside, BB struggled this year because Allvin and JR stripped any defensive/2way player in the bottom 6 that was worth their salt. When you strip a team of that many glue guys in the bottom 6, it never ends well. They lost Dickinson, Motte, Richardson, etc. and even when they had them, they were lacking.

Bruce would actually do well with the roster over Sully. At this stage Sully is just too close to see the changes that he needs to make.
 

Ugene Magic

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Thing is after 5 seasons he hasn’t had an answer. It’s gotten to the point where the voice gets stale. Sullivan isn’t a bad coach at all and that might shock you to hear from me, but his voice has gone stale and it’s been that way a while. He’s not Bylsma where he’d fail if he left. Sullivan will be a long tenured coach for another 10+ years. But on the Penguins he’s so close to the core that he just can’t see the bigger picture and he has gone back to old methods that aren’t viable in Todays nhl.

He really has no solve. Hextall can make 5 amazing moves right now and Sullivan will still prioritize his core guys first. That’s been the issue.

At the same time, it doesn't matter the coach, this team is that bad...
 

Honour Over Glory

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Blow it up or just tank

There's no point trying anymore

f***ing pathetic
We are. Just unintentionally.
 

Big Poppa Pump

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Thing is after 5 seasons he hasn’t had an answer. It’s gotten to the point where the voice gets stale. Sullivan isn’t a bad coach at all and that might shock you to hear from me, but his voice has gone stale and it’s been that way a while. He’s not Bylsma where he’d fail if he left. Sullivan will be a long tenured coach for another 10+ years. But on the Penguins he’s so close to the core that he just can’t see the bigger picture and he has gone back to old methods that aren’t viable in Todays nhl.

He really has no solve. Hextall can make 5 amazing moves right now and Sullivan will still prioritize his core guys first. That’s been the issue.
I've said it for years now.....

Sullivan hit his expiration date with this team a while ago.

He could go coach and win another cup elsewhere.

His time of doing that here are done.
 

Honour Over Glory

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At the same time, it doesn't matter the coach, this team is that bad...
I don’t think it is. I think a new coach coming in and trying more of the kids and just easing up on the hard defensive zone usage of the bottom 6 and a shake up on the system would cause positive changes. The problem with Sullivan is he still can’t figure out what won the 2 cups and thinks his system was it, when it was the change from Bylsma-MJ-Him and some quick JR moves. I don’t think we have a bad roster at all. I think a few players that deserve to sit are playing because the coach panders to the core and vets , that’s on the coach.
 

Big Friggin Dummy

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Thing is after 5 seasons he hasn’t had an answer. It’s gotten to the point where the voice gets stale. Sullivan isn’t a bad coach at all and that might shock you to hear from me, but his voice has gone stale and it’s been that way a while. He’s not Bylsma where he’d fail if he left. Sullivan will be a long tenured coach for another 10+ years. But on the Penguins he’s so close to the core that he just can’t see the bigger picture and he has gone back to old methods that aren’t viable in Todays nhl.

He really has no solve. Hextall can make 5 amazing moves right now and Sullivan will still prioritize his core guys first. That’s been the issue.
But Hextall won't make 5 moves, let alone 5 amazing moves. They both suck absolute shit at the job they're currently employed to do. It's not any more deep than that. Sullivan should've been fired after the Habs series when he cranked off to JJ-Schultz and played that abysmal pairing for 20+ minutes a night, dooming any chance the team had. Hextall shouldn't have been the guy hired if the team was gonna insist on keeping up the bullshit masquerade that they were still all-in on trying to vie for Cups. JR pissed away a ton of assets in his final years, chasing the ghost of Bonino at 3C and just absolutely *having* to get his guys in Zucker and Kap, at all costs.

The stars can't overwhelm the opposition to the degree they used to when it masked a ton of flaws in the past. The coach is stale as f*** as has been the wrong guy for the job for years. Ownership probably forgot they even bought an NHL team. The FO is just kinda floating down the lazy river, trying not to draw any attention. Goaltending tandem is garbage. The depth is atrocious. The biggest moves we're likely to see from Hextall reshuffled a blueline to pretty much zero effect.

-edit- It is what it is. There's no use in even getting bent out of shape about it anymore, it's just needless aggravation for something that just doesn't f***ing matter. :laugh:

-edit2- And "trying the kids"...? This team's best prospects are... Pickering, who is like 5 years away, and like, Puustinen? DOC? Barf.

That soon? Wow…
You're probably right. Bank on 15 years just to be safe. Twelve would be a pleasant surprise, and 10 is peachy.
 
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Andy99

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We’re not catching the Rangers for the third place so the best we can hope for is WC playoff spot and to play the Bruins or Canes.…why? What’s the point? We ain’t winning either series….Let’s go on a long losing streak and get some decent odds on Bedard…or at least a top five pick
 

Ugene Magic

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Instead of all the coaching staff growing a mustaches, they should now all grow beards and long hair.

Better yet, they all grow some balls and put on the goalie equipment and take some 90 to 100 mph slap shots to maybe learn what it means to make so many crucial mistakes in a game.
I don’t think it is. I think a new coach coming in and trying more of the kids and just easing up on the hard defensive zone usage of the bottom 6 and a shake up on the system would cause positive changes. The problem with Sullivan is he still can’t figure out what won the 2 cups and thinks his system was it, when it was the change from Bylsma-MJ-Him and some quick JR moves. I don’t think we have a bad roster at all. I think a few players that deserve to sit are playing because the coach panders to the core and vets , that’s on the coach.

That team was stacked top to bottom, in spades. They could withstand the injuries. This teams depth is not out of the top 20 players even.
 

Big Friggin Dummy

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If it takes that long the KC is rumors will be back in full force. Pittsburgh likes a winner.
Being an out of town fan, I never gave a shit about the KC rumors to begin with, so... /shrug

I'm too far to go to a game live and I sure as shit ain't springing for a trip to see this garbage in person, so whatever. Send 'em to Quebec City or whatever. :laugh:
 
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ZorkEnchanter

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We’re not catching the Rangers for the third place so the best we can hope for is WC playoff spot and to play the Bruins or Canes.…why? What’s the point? We ain’t winning either series….Let’s go on a long losing streak and get some decent odds on Bedard…or at least a top five pick

We can totally beat Boston.

Just like the Steelers would beat the Bengals... hahaha... just some bad luck.
 

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