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Value of: If McDavid doesn’t extend

For starters, not happening. McDavid is definitely extending, and these conversations will be a thing of the past by late summer.

But IF he decided not to extend, there’s not really a futures based package from another contender that would make sense. Any offer would have to contain a really good piece. Something like:

From Dallas - Wyatt Johnston + 2027 1st for McDavid @ 50%

From NJ - Hischier + Nemec for McDavid @ 50% + Kulak

Those I would consider, as it has future elements but also a piece that helps now (though major downgrade from McDavid).
You can add several firsts to those offers. Retained at 50%? My god.
 
What the eff is this? You honestly believe that McDavid is re-signing for 8 years and have his self proclaimed "Ride or Die" traded? Why would Draisaitl, who just signed his own 8 year deal, waive his NTC when McDavid re-signs?

Absolutely zero thought put into this proposal outside of "I want Draisaitl on the Rangers, want to dump Trocheck and don't want to pay a goalie $11.5M". All players mentioned outside of Bouch have some sort of trade protection as well.
It's called McD may have a heart to heart w/Leo b'c they can't run back the same and expect dif results

there is a lot of thought, you just wanted to zing me
your effort is limp
 
Bruins are a team in dire need of McDavid and a good market for him to come into. I think they need to be serious about this. McAvoy, #7 OA, future 1sts, Lysell/Poitras, +?

Basically anything other than Pasta and Swayman is on the table for me.
 
I'd still take a 1 year rental of McDavid if I am the Oilers and hope that through FA the Panthers are weakened.
 
It's called McD may have a heart to heart w/Leo b'c they can't run back the same and expect dif results

there is a lot of thought, you just wanted to zing me
your effort is limp

Your thought is solely based on what you want for your team and is not based in reality at all. Two players involved in your trade, signed long term deals with their teams with full NMCs within the last year. One player, has just made back to back finals. Why would he waive his NMC to go to a team that didn't even make the playoffs that had to trade their number 1 goalie and their 1 RD to acquire him? If both Drai and Shesterkin really wanted to leave their respective places, they wouldn't have signed long term deals.

Calling my effort limp when your response has a "may" in it is hilarious. "McD may have a heart to heart" is completely made up. What isn't made up, is the fact that Draisaitl signed an 8 year deal with a full NMC to stay in Edmonton.
 
Florida is probably the only team with enough good players to trade for McDavid.
McDavid for Barkov, Seth Jones, Luostarinen, Mikkola and a few 1st round picks could get it done!
 
From Florida:

- Lundell 5M UFA 2030
- Luostarinen 3M UFA 2027
- Mikkola 2,5M UFA 2026
- Samoskevich RFA 2025

for

Connor McDavid 12.5M UFA 2026 (assuming he is ready to renew his contract in Florida)

Who would do it?

E-Rod - McDavid - Reinhart
Verhaeghe - Barkov - Tkachuk
That might be the best top six in the past...what 20 years? Maybe Chicago in 2010.
 
I've seen Florida games.

I'd take McDavid on my team over Verhaeghe+Barkov+Tkachuk.

He's the best in the world. Those above three are at least one tier below him. Let's not even talk about your "2nd line incoming cheap". And, of course, this is with the insurance that McDavid signs. I don't see him being a rental anywhere. Price would be way too high for a couple months.
Draisaitl/ Barkov as 1-2 C and one of the best wingers in the game.

That's a package Edmonton would be dumb to not take.
 
Leafs give up nothing. Just sign him for free in 2026 if he truly plans to walk in FA, he likely comes home to fulfill his dream of playing for the Leafs.
 
Purely hypothetical...

Some ideas I came up with (only Eastern) :

OTT - COZENS + Yakemchuk + Merilainen + 2027 OTT 1st
TOR - RIELLY + Cowan + Danford + Hildeby
CAR - KOTKANIEMI + Nadeau + 2026 CAR 1st + 2026 DAL 1st
NJD - PALAT + Nemec + Silayev + Yegorov
Rental McJesus would get 3+ first round picks. Otherwise you as a GM are not confident at all in your ability to win with him or convince him to resign.

That Devils offer is hilarious. A cap dump for McDavid. And Carolina not giving up Nikishin, lol.
 
I’ll go slow you.
If (IF) you were in Edmonton”s position and you knew he wasn’t going to sign. And a team offered 2 1st and a good prospect. And another offered 2 1st, 2 2nds and a great prospect but needed retention you would refuse and take the 1st offer?

I'll spell it out for you.

Connor McDavid isn't the type of player you need to retain on. In any deal.

Connor McDavid does not return a cap dump in any capacity.

If a team needs to make room for his contract they will make other deals to get the cap space.

I suspect the Oilers, as a legit Stanley Cup contender, wouldn't want a bunch of futures for McDavid. They might take some as part of the deal, but they would probably need excellent roster players to complete their team line up.

If you want to propose a trade for the best player in the NHL think of the player on your team you absolutely do not want to part with. Then add.
 
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At the end of the regular season I would have agreed with this and would be reluctant to pay him 8mil. But he has looked phenomenal in these playoffs, and it’s the second playoff run in a row. He will likely be looking for 11. Hoping he takes 10.5.

Connor 8 x 16.5
Bouch 8 x 10.5

Core locked up for 41 mil. It’s steep, but it’s arguably the best 3 player core in the league.
3 on 3 good, but what about the goal-tendin'. Do they allow pulling the goalie in overtime 🤔
 
I'll spell it out for you.

Connor McDavid isn't the type of player you need to retain on. In any deal.

Connor McDavid does not return a cap dump in any capacity.

If a team needs to make room for his contract they will make other deals to get the cap space.

I suspect the Oilers, as a legit Stanley Cup contender, wouldn't want a bunch of futures for McDavid. They might take some as part of the deal, but they would probably need excellent roster players to complete their team line up.

If you want to propose a trade for the best player in the NHL think of the player on your team you absolutely do not want to part with. Then add.
Ok, so you take less return because you won’t use dollars you aren’t spending anyway.
 
This would be a truly unique situation. Obviously teams need to know McDavid will extend which probably limits the field. On the Oilers side, they would know at that point they'd lose him for nothing. Don't get me wrong, it would be a haul. But unless the acquiring team knows they are keeping him they aren't offering that "hockey trade" the Oilers could be looking for. Example, Leafs (obviously), if they know they are extending McDavid long-term yeah, you offer Nylander+Knies+Cowan plus/minus whatever to get it done, but if you don't have the assurance that deal can't happen.
 
For starters, not happening. McDavid is definitely extending, and these conversations will be a thing of the past by late summer.

But IF he decided not to extend, there’s not really a futures based package from another contender that would make sense. Any offer would have to contain a really good piece. Something like:

From Dallas - Wyatt Johnston + 2027 1st for McDavid @ 50%

From NJ - Hischier + Nemec for McDavid @ 50% + Kulak

Those I would consider, as it has future elements but also a piece that helps now (though major downgrade from McDavid).


Oilers are not retaining 50%
 

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