Post-Game Talk: If a game is played and no one watches it, does it count?

Eckholm, Walman, Stecher and Klingberg are all injured. That’s why Dineen is even up playing. Frankly I’d like to see less/none of him because it means the others are back healthy.

At the end of the day, he played, and he played well. Nice to see the organization having depth and the 10th or 12th option can play and not look in over his head.
 
At the end of the day, he played, and he played well. Nice to see the organization having depth and the 10th or 12th option can play and not look in over his head.
Agreed. Just saying that under the circumstances I’d rather see less of him so we’re not playing a 10-12 depth option, especially on the eve of the SCPlayoffs.

But we are where we are, so like you said, it good that he wasn’t drowning.
 
Just want to know if Draisaitl was on the bus ride to WPG and what was accomplished by bringing him along instead of letting him rest in Edmonton.
 
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They won and skinner played well. About 80% of the board has nothing to talk about when that happens.

Yup. There's really nothing to complain or argue about after a game like yesterday. I feel like Pickard's recent play united a lot of the board that was previously in Pro-Skinner and Anti-Skinner camps. So that eliminates like a dozen potential pages. Seems like pretty much everyone wants to see Pickard get the start come playoff time, but nobody is going to be upset if Skinner starts playing well too.
 
Agreed. Just saying that under the circumstances I’d rather see less of him so we’re not playing a 10-12 depth option, especially on the eve of the SCPlayoffs.

But we are where we are, so like you said, it good that he wasn’t drowning.

I don't think most of our guys are quite as injured as they appear. It would have been smart money to leave some cap cushion at the deadline (which we did) in order to rest a few guys down the stretch (which we have).

IMO first in the division was likely out of reach a couple of weeks ago. LA and Colorado, yeah... still battling for home ice, but that's probably less of a consideration than simply having rested stars heading into a long playoffs where you will plenty of away games no matter who starts where.

I think rest is/was the right call.
 
I don't think most of our guys are quite as injured as they appear. It would have been smart money to leave some cap cushion at the deadline (which we did) in order to rest a few guys down the stretch (which we have).

IMO first in the division was likely out of reach a couple of weeks ago. LA and Colorado, yeah... still battling for home ice, but that's probably less of a consideration than simply having rested stars heading into a long playoffs where you will plenty of away games no matter who starts where.

I think rest is/was the right call.
Where do you base that on? That’s a pretty hot take.
 
Where do you base that on? That’s a pretty hot take.

Of course I'm not saying they aren't injured, this is a long, long season... they are all bound to be suffering legit lingering injuries... I'm saying they may not have been "miss three weeks each" injured if the season were still on the line. I think we are being very cautious with what injuries exist and extending rest periods such that:

1) They come back fully healed and rested, and
2) They have options for LTIR in case Kane forced their hand by coming back early.

I have no hard evidence of this, it's just my take based on:
  • All of McD ($$$), Drai ($$$), Nuge ($$), Hyman ($$), Walman ($$) are making enough that LTIR-ing any of them would allow them to activate Kane
  • Media reports that Kane wanted to return as early as possible (but that would put us over the cap if it happened)
  • Kane now skating with the team
  • None of the above injuries or ailments appeared like much to the outside observer at the time
  • The injuries have been rotating, for example McD comes back just as Drai goes off
  • Each of the injuries occurring coincident with: a) Kane skating with the team and b) with sufficient time left in the season that LTIR could be used
  • McD came back looking better than he has all year... so obviously that indicates they let him take his time recovering
All I'm saying is that the team is probably uber cautious about two things:
1) Running out of gas as we did last year, and
2) An investigation into abusing/stretching Kane's LTIR...

Having guys rotate out of the lineup and rest properly effectively kills two birds with one stone, allowing them to rest up as well as always having an alternate guy who would qualify for LTIR should we need it (Kane's docs clear him early or NHL comes sniffing).

Or, its just bad luck... and all of our most expensive, most important for the playoffs guys, are all going down at once right at the end of the season when the standings are all locked up.
 
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My vent.

Gordon Ramsey lies to us in a commercial during the game and then calls us stupid.

Plant-based butter is called margarine, Gordon! Not all Canadians are so easily manipulated!
 
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Of course I'm not saying they aren't injured, this is a long, long season... they are all bound to be suffering legit lingering injuries... I'm saying they may not have been "miss three weeks each" injured if the season were still on the line. I think we are being very cautious with what injuries exist and extending rest periods such that:

1) They come back fully healed and rested, and
2) They have options for LTIR in case Kane forced their hand by coming back early.

I have no hard evidence of this, it's just my take based on:
  • All of McD ($$$), Drai ($$$), Nuge ($$), Hyman ($$), Walman ($$) are making enough that LTIR-ing any of them would allow them to activate Kane
  • Media reports that Kane wanted to return as early as possible (but that would put us over the cap if it happened)
  • Kane now skating with the team
  • None of the above injuries or ailments appeared like much to the outside observer at the time
  • The injuries have been rotating, for example McD comes back just as Drai goes off
  • Each of the injuries occurring coincident with: a) Kane skating with the team and b) with sufficient time left in the season that LTIR could be used
  • McD came back looking better than he has all year... so obviously that indicates they let him take his time recovering
All I'm saying is that the team is probably uber cautious about two things:
1) Running out of gas as we did last year, and
2) An investigation into abusing/stretching Kane's LTIR...

Having guys rotate out of the lineup and rest properly effectively kills two birds with one stone, allowing them to rest up as well as always having an alternate guy who would qualify for LTIR should we need it (Kane's docs clear him early or NHL comes sniffing).

Or, its just bad luck... and all of our most expensive, most important for the playoffs guys, are all going down at once right at the end of the season when the standings are all locked up.
My reply will be much shorter.

You have zero to base it on.

I figured so.
 
That's a bit aggressive Brent. Don't be sour.
Buck, I have nothing to be sour about.

I didn’t post a statement about the health of players that I couldn’t support. I asked you to however, and you said you can’t.

I simply responded after, that I wasn’t surprised you couldn’t support it with facts as it was really an “out there” statement.

That’s all.
 
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Wait, there was hockey on yesterday?

Imagine choosing that over watching history unfold at The Masters as one of the most dramatic sporting spectacles ever unfolded.
 
Buck, I have nothing to be sour about.

I didn’t post a statement about the health of players that I couldn’t support. I asked you to however, and you said you can’t.

I simply responded after, that I wasn’t surprised you couldn’t support it with facts as it was really an “out there” statement.

That’s all.

My original post was picking up on your concern that we are playing Gleeson at this late stage…

You are worried.

I am not… I didn’t state anything as fact. I just alluded to some load management and cap optionality that may be at play. If the game IS being played, this is what it would look like.

You called me out. I expanded… again not presenting anything as fact.

Other than Ekholm, I’m not worried about the health of our guys… I THINK/PROJECT/AND SUPPOSE that there isn’t that much to be worried about.

Clearer now? Or you just want me down there in the mire worrying with you based on the current facts? (Everyone knows they aren’t playing).
 
My original post was picking up on your concern that we are playing Gleeson at this late stage…

You are worried.

I am not… I didn’t state anything as fact. I just alluded to some load management and cap optionality that may be at play. If the game IS being played, this is what it would look like.

You called me out. I expanded… again not presenting anything as fact.

Other than Ekholm, I’m not worried about the health of our guys… I THINK/PROJECT/AND SUPPOSE that there isn’t that much to be worried about.

Clearer now? Or you just want me down there in the mire worrying with you based on the current facts? (Everyone knows they aren’t playing).
I don’t know who this Gleeson is that you are referring to. I never spoke about anyone of that name in any of my posts.

I stopped reading after that. I assume the rest of your alphabet wall was equally not making sense.

Yes, I am worried. I’m worried about you.
 
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I don’t know who this Gleeson is that you are referring to. I never spoke about anyone of that name in any of my posts.

I stopped reading after that. I assume the rest of your alphabet wall was equally not making sense.

Yes, I am worried. I’m worried about you.

Dineen. Gleason.. whatever… A minor slip, both insignificant AHL tweener defensemen.

Hey guess what! Sportsnet and multiple outlets now reporting that majority of our guys (except Ekholm) are back for game one…. Like I was saying “abundance of caution” and “precautionary” load management….

What a HUGE surprise!!!

 
Dineen. Gleason.. whatever… A minor slip, both insignificant AHL tweener defensemen.

Hey guess what! Sportsnet and multiple outlets now reporting that majority of our guys (except Ekholm) are back for game one…. Like I was saying “abundance of caution” and “precautionary” load management….

What a HUGE surprise!!!

Yup. Sitting out these remaining 3 regular season games and the 10+ calendar days that some of them will have had to heal can do wonders to reduce or mend all sorts of injuries.
 

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