I think Pacific is indeed the toughest division in the league
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TheNumber4
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That start was a necessary evil. Blessing in disguise really.ngl, im glad we beat you guys three times at your lowest. Wont play again until April. Hope we can keep picking up pts and kept you guys in a WC spot
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Yorkshire Leaf
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Statistics are your friend.
Eastern teams Vs Pacific teams
12 have a winning record
2 have an even record
2 have a losing record
Eastern teams Vs Pacific teams
12 have a winning record
2 have an even record
2 have a losing record
TheNumber4
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Vegas is obviously great, and they have a nice top three with a rising Edmonton, but the bottom four teams are here:
Super Cake
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The funny thing is Vegas is winning games while not even playing their best. In November, they couldn't buy themselves a goal and lost couple of 1 goal games and even getting shutout 3 times in 5 games.
Now these last 4 games, their offense has been saving their asses while they seem to not be able to keep the puck out of their own net.
Now these last 4 games, their offense has been saving their asses while they seem to not be able to keep the puck out of their own net.
hangman005
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The ducks would be doing better if @ViD didn't jinx them earlier this year... they have been terrible since that thread. 
hangman005
It's my first day.
That I think we have had all our D for what like 2 games
I don't think the Flames, Kraken, Ducks, or Sharks are very good.
So I disagree with the notion that the Pacific is the toughest division.
In fact, if you compare the 5th place through 8th place in the Pacific with all other divisions, you get the following result based by points percentage:
Flames are the worst 5th place team out of all divisions (ranked 4th of 4).
Kraken are the worst 6th place team out of all divisions (ranked 4th of 4).
Ducks are the worst 7th place team out of all divisions (ranked 4th of 4).
Sharks are the second worst 8th place team out of all divisions (ranked 3rd of 4; only Chicago is worse).
Even the Oilers are the worst 4th place team out of all divisions, although this is due to a horrible start and I see them improving their ranking.
This would all seem to indicate the Pacific is the worst division in hockey, rather than the best division in hockey.
So I disagree with the notion that the Pacific is the toughest division.
In fact, if you compare the 5th place through 8th place in the Pacific with all other divisions, you get the following result based by points percentage:
Flames are the worst 5th place team out of all divisions (ranked 4th of 4).
Kraken are the worst 6th place team out of all divisions (ranked 4th of 4).
Ducks are the worst 7th place team out of all divisions (ranked 4th of 4).
Sharks are the second worst 8th place team out of all divisions (ranked 3rd of 4; only Chicago is worse).
Even the Oilers are the worst 4th place team out of all divisions, although this is due to a horrible start and I see them improving their ranking.
This would all seem to indicate the Pacific is the worst division in hockey, rather than the best division in hockey.
Seras
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It's the best division to be in if you are looking for easy points
Dont know if any other division has as strong of a top three as VGK/LAK/EDM. The bottom half of Pacific sucks though.
Laterade
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Vancouver is better than Edmonton bud
Highly doubt that. Their finishing and goaltending was through the roof to start the season, which is generally not sustainable. Oilers are the 2nd best team in the league in 5vs5 xgf% and have the best PP in the league.
Also 109 points last seasons vs Canucks who missed the playoffs. I'd like to think that far better underlying numbers coupled with far better recent success makes Oilers the superior team, despite Canucks being ahead in the standings for now.
Connor McConnor
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Just so the East can choke again. The Rangers are the biggest paper tigers I’ve seen, Boston doesn’t know how to pass round 2 lately and Toronto can only win in overtime/SO.
Canucks have the most regulation time wins in the league. Am sure you will find a way to discredit that too lol. They have the most goals scored in the league. Is that a fluke too? That's with Kuzmenko scoring only 4 goals. You don't want to look at results and real stats like wins or losses or goals or point percentage, that's fine. But they have beat Oilers 3 times in a dominant fashion too this season. They are the better team and their D is way better too, can score and hit. It's ok to be jealous but that's just reality.
SilhouetteSpecial
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Last 10 years, 5 from the East, 5 from the West. Doesn't appear either side is superior to the other.
Pavels Dog
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It's still the worst division in hockey.
If my team goes 1-0-1 against my opponent, who also goes 1-0-1, both teams have winning records. .750 at that.
I think you meant to say, improperly used statistics are my friend when I'm making a dishonest point.
dirtydanglez
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the east hasnt been impressive since tampa won. this year they look even worse. not sure whats going on there. a bunch of underachieving teams.
SoundAndFury
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Well duh, that's what high PD is. That's exactly what he says in the post you are quoting.
Yorkshire Leaf
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Which would true if that was the statistic I’d used, which it wasn’t, it was a simple number of wins v number of losses.
Ie. Leafs v Pacific won 3 lost 1 - a winning record.
Habs - won 3 lost 6 - a losing record
Lowly Sens - won 2 lost 2 - an equal record.
So the what you have highlighted would be an equal record 1 win, 1 loss, neither team would have a winning record.
