I think it's time to talk about the Rangers
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One Winged Angel
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They may finish in the top 10?
Since the 2014-2015 season only Dallas has scored more goals.
http://www.nhl.com/stats/team?aggregate=1&gameType=2&report=teamsummary&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20142015&seasonTo=20162017&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=goalsFor
The defense is definitely the weakest link on the Rangers.
What a start for NYR. Love their forwards - deep, dynamic and fast. Zuccarello, Stepan, Nash, Kreider, Buchnevich, Zibs, Vesey, Miller, Hayes make up the NHLs best Top 9 IMO.
I get what you are saying, and I am aware of the historical signficance of the CF%. Correct me if I am wrong, but the numbers do show a strong correlation to a drop in CF% when a team is leading, correct? And, that drop gets even more drastic when a team is up by 2 goals, correct? On the other hand, teams tend to have higher when they are trailing and even morewhen they are trailing by 2 or more? With that in mind, it should be reasonable to expect the Rangers CF% to be low because of how much time they have spent with the lead. Looked up some info on the Rangers and their 17 games this season. Specifically the amount of time they have been tied, up 1, up 2, up 3, up 4+, down 1, down 2, down 3, down 4+
They have been tied, 28.6% of the game time (272:38). They have been leading 51.9% of the time (494:59). They have been trailing 19.5% of the time (185:22). Breaking it down further, they have been leading by 2 goals or more 29.6% of the time (281:40). They have only trailed by 2 or more 3.1% of the time (29:26).
They have spent more than 1/2 their time leading and nearly 1/3 leading by more than 2 goals. Isn't it then expected their CF% would drop?
Canadienna
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I've been avoiding this thread hoping they came back to earth.
Maybe Price v Lundqvist will finally happen for the ECF.
Maybe Price v Lundqvist will finally happen for the ECF.
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JimmyG89
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will1066
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Good observation. I was looking at the same thing last night. People are freaking out because their CF% and FF% are not great, but fail to realize how little time they have spent tied or within one goal of their opponent. Check out their CF% close and FF% close. They're 5th and 6th respectively.
BroadwayStorm
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Don't bother using any more logic or statistical analysis. You just roasted them all with this post.
RunTheJesperFast
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Like when someone says, "The Rangers are only good because they have the most money and can outspend every other team in the league...."
Thank you and thank you. I just did LA, and will do a few more later today. Chose LA first, because they are #2 CF% 5v5 and #1 in all situations.
Well, they have been tied 39.1% of their time, have led 26% of their time and have trailed 35% of their time. They have led by 2 or more only 10.6% of their time and have trailed by 2 or more 18.1% of their time. Just looking at those numbers, you would expect them to have a good CF%. Granted, until I look at more teams, I won't know what the norm is for amount of time leading/trailing/tied. LA could be the norm for all I know. The other problem is they have had a few blowouts. For example, they beat Calgary and Toronto, 5-0 and 7-0 in back-to-back games. In the Calgary game, they had a lead of 4 goals or more for 33:51. I did not see the game, but experience tells me that even there Calgary may not have still been going balls to the wall trying to catch-up. Especially over the last 10 minutes or so when they were down 5-0. Same for the Toronto game. They had a 4-goal lead or more for 26:27, and a 5-goal lead heading into 3rd. Have to question how much Toronto was going all-out. They have also had a stretch of 3 games where they were shutout in all 3 games. The last one being 4-0, where Anaheim scored goal #4 with 9 1/2 minutes left in the 2nd. Again, how hard was LA going down the stretch of that game? Would have had to have watched the game to determine. I apologize to the guys who are true believers in the stat, but you can't tell me a few extra shots attempted in a game where you are down 5-0 with 3 minutes to play (or a few extra shots attempts against in a game where you are up 5-0 with 3 minutes to play) really means anything. I know that is why people also look at CF-close, but the above scenarios has to cast some serious doubt on the validity of CF%.
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Just ignore the thread? There are lots of threads that are bumped after certain events.
This is much better than 3 new threads opening up every game about the Rangers...
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Destroyed the Penguins without Buch, Mika, Lundqvist and played an OT game the night before.
So is this team for real yet?..
So is this team for real yet?..
Dipsy Doodle
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Another 5 peice chicken mcnugget meal put up by the Rangers vs the big bad pens
It'll be interesting to see how things play out with Murray in net on Wednesday.
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Probably be closer game for sure.. Fleury is just not much of an NHL goalie these days.
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Well, what will start to happen is fans of other teams will bump this thread when the Rangers lay an egg... which it looked like they were going to do after that first period.
