probably misphrased...its not like anyones trashed him, but there's absolutely been a sense of relief hes gone and the isles will for sure be much better off opening things up.
well not really a 4th liner. Guy is deadly on the PP and good 5x5 but I do recall a 20 year old punk barzal skating circles around Zibby as a rookie. Zibby had no answers.
It's not just about goal scoring bud. And if you compare them at the same age in development Zibanejad doesn't hold a candle against Barzal and he wasn't playing for Trotz.
Yeah I know. I have to resort to exaggerations on occasion so I speak the same language as some fans. But yes he is a good player but he's no Barzal. LOL
Yeah, I'll endeavor to try to get it back on track and I do realize if I am wrong (which I'm not) the haters will eat me alive.
considering the Isles have no elite talents the one guy leading the way was a young #13 center. Yes, it's a major accomplishment.
Zibby is a great player, I never did not say this, Barzal has certainly done things Zibby has not and Zibby has done thing barzal as not.
Of course its not for you. your guy doesn't excel at it. Btw Zibby's best playoff run is better than Barzal's too.
Ok but stick to the thread. Are the Isles a darkhorse or not? Or in my eyes, they were always a contender if not for the fluke of a season they had last year.
Well I want to know what your take is on the Isles chances. Dark horse? Perennial playoff team? (despite the fluke last year?)
still does not rebuke the truth that Barzal has not accomplished anything close to Zibby or Foxy? More combined playoff wins than both and has outscored them during a regular season campaign. All before age 25. Foxy and Zibby are elite players no debating this.
The Isles and the Rangers are playing two completely different systems. Why are you obsessed with comparing numbers?
I don't see them as a darkhorse to win the cup. ButI think they will easily get a playoff berth and can win a round or two. They're a good team and probably just 1-2 forwards away from being a true contender. I would have had them as one if Johnny G had signed there.
And both Fox and Zibby have had playoff runs where they were over 1 PPG. Has Barzal?
Last season the Isles got hit hard (hardest in the league) by COVID. Played a handful of games with 50% AHLers, since the league didn’t want to postpone any games because COVID in the begging of the season. Many key players caught the virus as well, and the virus might have affected them negatively during a long time... Just look at what happened with Zibanejad. The Isles also started off the season with 13 away games in a row. Do you mean that these circumstances had absolutely no effect on their over-all result and performance?
Might want to scroll back where the debate started my friend. Know your all busy up there in Gotham.
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That's the general consensus, but when I look at the Isles roster it's all about balance. On any given night any line can score and now throw in a mobile D in the mix and anything can happen. This team in particular should be judged by the sum of all its parts and not it's reliance on 1 of 2 star players to make it all happen.
You have absolutely no idea if he would or wouldn’t. All you can do is compare what they’ve actually done.
Is Barzal even good defensively? I would guess Zibby is probably better in that regard.,
At age 25 ish zibby was sporting a minus 23. Food for thought. Yes #13 is probably better at defense than zibby was at the same age. No one will know for sure but Trotz certainly helped barzal here. The fruits will bare the results possibly Zibby is an elite player. A deadly assassin no question at this point in his career. Never a debate here.
He also had 2 seasons where was +9 before that age which is better than all but one of Barzal's season (not that +- is a good metric anyways).
