I think Islanders are the dark horse of the East this season.

[GlassesManbad]

Did some dime store math: Let's see Isles average age 28.8 Leafs 27.9 Rangers 26.11 Not a significant difference if you ask me. Isles have some older gents coming off the books very very soon and one 37 year old vet on a one year deal. Isles have project 1.9 million plus in cap space; Leafs: projected cap sace 1.4 million plus Rangers cap space at approx 189k! Not sure how you determined your narrative? feel free to fact check me as did this while working....... Cheers mate

The avg age doesn't really tell you much, so I don't go by it. Leafs 'Old Players" aren't locked-up very long. The actual core is realtively young. Wayne Simmonds is on the team. He increases the age. He'll barely play.
Also my cap comment was going forward.

Yep it’s a week old,( VERY outdated) if Murray doesn’t LTIR, then the same as 7 days ago.

What about his other points?

 

[miscs75]

No one has a geriatric Zach Parise on their top line either.

Geriatric Zach Parise has chemistry with Mat “overpaid” Barzal.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

I don't like the forward core but the defence is very strong and the goaltending is right there with NYR and Tampa, so the Isles are a little unpredictable.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Geriatric Zach Parise has chemistry with Mat “overpaid” Barzal.

To the tune of 35 whole points last year. Once Parise hits his prime, watch out metro division.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Glad you responded to absolutely nothing else. Typical pot stirrer who just mentions Leafs in a negative frame without actually adding anything to the discussion.

Pot meet kettle, oh and I did respond, the age changed in week because Murray went on LTIR, and Robertson called up.

 

[miscs75]

To the tune of 35 whole points last year. Once Parise hits his prime, watch out metro division.

35 points with 15 goals at 750k. I guess that’s not good enough for league minimum. He’s not quite Kravtsov but he’s still good. Then again, pillow soft Kravtsov is the new Russian Gretzky who’s going to make Kaprizov look like an AHLer.
We can always watch Halak give up 5 while being behind the greatest elbow in present day history. Atleast you’ve got Ryan Carpenter to help solidify that quality 4th line.

 

[Kane One]

35 points with 15 goals at 750k. I guess that’s not good enough for league minimum. He’s not quite Kravtsov but he’s still good. Then again, pillow soft Kravtsov is the new Russian Gretzky who’s going to make Kaprizov look like an AHLer.
We can always watch Halak give up 5 while being behind the greatest elbow in present day history. Atleast you’ve got Ryan Carpenter to help solidify that quality 4th line.

You realize he’s a Leafs fan, right? For as much as Isles fans have the Leafs and Rangers in their heads, one would assume you’d know what their jerseys look like…

 

[Martin Skoula]

35 points with 15 goals at 750k. I guess that’s not good enough for league minimum. He’s not quite Kravtsov but he’s still good. Then again, pillow soft Kravtsov is the new Russian Gretzky who’s going to make Kaprizov look like an AHLer.
We can always watch Halak give up 5 while being behind the greatest elbow in present day history. Atleast you’ve got Ryan Carpenter to help solidify that quality 4th line.

Why do you need a league minimum player putting up 3rd line totals on your top line?

 

[miscs75]

You realize he’s a Leafs fan, right? For as much as Isles fans have the Leafs and Rangers in their heads, one would assume you’d know what their jerseys look like…

Leafs fans, Rangers fans. Same egotistical attitude for the most part. Might be the two most entitled O6 fanbases with the least amount of success throughout history.

 

[Martin Skoula]

You realize he’s a Leafs fan, right? For as much as Isles fans have the Leafs and Rangers in their heads, one would assume you’d know what their jerseys look like…

Kravtsov fandom doesn't stop at team boundaries, I would die for that man.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Average age means nothing on it's own, IMO. Core age is the only worthwhile age-related metric. NYR probably has us all beat with Fox and K'Andre, although Dobson helps NYI's. Shesty and Sorokin are around the same.

Not sure if Laf or Kakko could really be considered core players yet, I usually only include 5-6 guys in a core.

 

[1specter]

Pot meet kettle, oh and I did respond, the age changed in week because Murray went on LTIR, and Robertson called up.

I don't go around stirring shit up with Senators fans (probably because I don't give a f*** about Ottawa), so not sure how I'm similar to you in any way. Also, I said nothing else, please learn to read.

 

[miscs75]

Why do you need a league minimum player putting up 3rd line totals on your top line?

If he has chemistry with Mat and plays solid defensive hockey leaving room for him to work, his 35 points are fine with me. If he puts up points but is on the ice for more goals against, he doesn’t belong on the top line.

 

[Kane One]

Leafs fans, Rangers fans. Same egotistical attitude for the most part. Might be the two most entitled O6 fanbases with the least amount of success throughout history.

Isles fans started the 1940 chant almost more recently to 1940 than the current span since the Isles last cup. Let’s not pretend the Islanders are some glorious franchise.

 

[Martin Skoula]

If he has chemistry with Mat and plays solid defensive hockey leaving room for him to work, his 35 points are fine with me. If he puts up points but is on the ice for more goals against, he doesn’t belong on the top line.

But he got outscored at ES last year. Actual contenders like Tampa have their league minimum vets on the 4th line, where Perry outscored Parise by 10 points at ES with less TOI lol. Your top line winger probably doesn't make the roster of most teams in the playoffs.

 

[miscs75]

Isles fans started the 1940 chant almost more recently to 1940 than the current span since the Isles last cup. Let’s not pretend the Islanders are some glorious franchise.

Same Stanley cup success in a much shorter time frame. You mean the Islanders fans who have to listen to Rangers fans still babble “Potvin beats his wife” as a chant.

But he got outscored at ES last year. Actual contenders like Tampa have their league minimum vets on the 4th line, where Perry outscored Parise by 10 points at ES with less TOI lol.

Still 35 points on a team who had the issues Islanders did is a decent season. Is it ideal that he’s playing on the top line? No but if the chemistry is there. Anyone will take it. Tampa also had a top 6 last season that was probably top 5 in the league. Not a roster of guys who underperformed due to injuries/Covid derailing their season while the league refused to care since it was the Islanders and not a team on the chosen list of Uncle Gary.

 

[AvatarAang]

Leafs fans, Rangers fans. Same egotistical attitude for the most part. Might be the two most entitled O6 fanbases with the least amount of success throughout history.

What an odd coincidence that you find the Leafs and Rangers to be the two most entitled fanbases. Are Panarin and Tavares still keeping you awake at night? There is no need to call leaf/rangers fans egotistical just because you finally realized that no star player wants to sign with your team.

Also, why are you bringing up success throughout history when the leafs have the 2nd most Stanley cup wins? And I think NYR/NYI have the same amount of cups? Did you forget you’re posting in the main board, your cheap shots at the leafs/rangers will be more popular in the isles forum.

 

[Kane One]

Same Stanley cup success in a much shorter time frame. You mean the Islanders fans who have to listen to Rangers fans still babble “Potvin beats his wife” as a chant.

That chant hasn’t existed in at least 20 years. They still have the Potvin sucks chant which I’ll admit is and always has been stupid.

The only way I can cope with the Rangers only winning 3 cups in their early history is knowing that there was no draft and one owner owned three teams. The Red Wings was his baby and he also owned the Rangers and Black Hawks, who were (coincidentally?) the two worst teams at that time. Maybe I’m smoking too much copium though, but whatever. Thankfully I wasn’t alive for that.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Same Stanley cup success in a much shorter time frame. You mean the Islanders fans who have to listen to Rangers fans still babble “Potvin beats his wife” as a chant.


Still 35 points on a team who had the issues Islanders did is a decent season. Is it ideal that he’s playing on the top line? No but if the chemistry is there. Anyone will take it. Tampa also had a top 6 last season that was probably top 5 in the league. Not a roster of guys who underperformed due to injuries/Covid derailing their season while the league refused to care since it was the Islanders and not a team on the chosen list of Uncle Gary.

Covid is done and he's still there though. Just seems disingenuous to go on and on about how deep the bottom 6 is while ignoring that having the most expensive 4th line in the league has the direct consequence of needing to put a 13th forward on a contender into a top line role.

 

[miscs75]

What an odd coincidence that you find the Leafs and Rangers to be the two most entitled fanbases. Are Panarin and Tavares still keeping you awake at night? There is no need to call leaf/rangers fans egotistical just because you finally realized that no star player wants to sign with your team.

Also, why are you bringing up success throughout history when the leafs have the 2nd most Stanley cup wins? And I think NYR/NYI have the same amount of cups? Did you forget you’re posting in the main board, your cheap shots at the leafs/rangers will be more popular in the isles forum.

Nope could care less about Panarin using the Islanders for more money from the Rangers and the Tavares soap opera. Considering the fact the both players haven’t had the same playoff success with their respective teams as the Islanders have had without them during the Trotz era.
As for my replying, it’s an Islanders releated thread that was just as I expected. Filled with people trashing the Islanders and claiming their a fluke even with the defensive and goaltending depth on the roster.

 

[CanadienShark]

Leafs fans, Rangers fans. Same egotistical attitude for the most part. Might be the two most entitled O6 fanbases with the least amount of success throughout history.

Really dude? You got called out for making a mistake, then you decide to double down and be a douche to two entire fanbases instead of one.

 

[miscs75]

Covid is done and he's still there though. Just seems disingenuous to go on and on about how deep the bottom 6 is while ignoring that having the most expensive 4th line in the league has the direct consequence of needing to put a 13th forward on a contender into a top line role.

Considering the fact they got blasted with Covid after the 13 game road trip and the league refusing the postpone games but somehow managed to postpone other teams when they had 2-3 players out for the same reason. The league still had the protocol and failed to utilize it when necessary.
The bottom 6 does what it needs to do very well and as for that 4th line. They’re all healthy and the game vs Anaheim was actually telling that last year was a fluke.
Parise would make jsut about every roster in the league and still play every night. He might be 37 but he still can play the game at a high level. He’s not 6 steps behind hoping the game slows down enough for him to catch someone.

 

[Kane One]

Considering the fact they got blasted with Covid after the 13 game road trip and the league refusing the postpone games but somehow managed to postpone other teams when they had 2-3 players out for the same reason. The league still had the protocol and failed to utilize it when necessary.
The bottom 6 does what it needs to do very well and as for that 4th line. They’re all healthy and the game vs Anaheim was actually telling that last year was a fluke.
Parise would make jsut about every roster in the league and still play every night. He might be 37 but he still can play the game at a high level. He’s not 6 steps behind hoping the game slows down enough for him to catch someone.

The league didn’t refuse to postpone games. The Islanders never asked the league to, which was their failure.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I’m glad you’ve cleared this up for us all.

I guess I’ll just take my decade + of experiences here and throw them in the trash because Super6646 assured me HF doesn’t hate the Isles.

I’ll ask again… why would HF have a grudge against the Isles?

Essentially zero success

No truly hateable players

Smaller fanbase

No star player to hate just because he’s good (see:McDavid)

No noticeable tanking


So why do we all hate the Isles? You’re just one of the posters who believe “any bad word against my team makes you a hater”

 

[mm11]

I'm kinda scratching my bald head determining why average age does not mean anything according to some here when measuring "age" of a team?