I May Be In The Minority . . . But I Believe That Kaapo Kakko Could Be Selected 1st Overall in 2019

[ijk]

People really take hockey too seriously sometimes.

Chill out

 

[BB88]

Strictly speaking about hype and discussion before entering the NHL (not to be mixed with pre-draft hype), I think Nyquil is quite correct. Granlund had the most hype before entering the NHL if not only for the reason that he was the first big Finnish draft pick in a long time and followed it with an awesome showing at the 2011 WC. Of course people were disappointed afterwards after Granlund’s first NHL season when he was physically too weak.

Laine may have had similar levels of hype, but with his case it was more warranted. Barkov didn’t reach the same levels as these two.

But I don’t want to argue. I just wanted to point out that I think some people either misunderstood Nyquil or then they weren’t here to see the hype.

It's just straight up stupid to live in the past and ignore all the major changes Finland has done, and the results it has lead to.

Granlund is from fair play era, these kids aren't. Not to mention the differences between Kakko& Granlund as players.
Kakko is build for todays NHL, he's not going to have to spent years on gaining strenght or skating in Europe.

 

[StreetHawk]

Kakko has played center majority of his junior career so i'm not surprised he's going to transition to that in adult league as well(at some point). Why is this surprising people? I really doubt Hughes with his 5'9 frame would be playing center in Liiga either from the beginning.

No different than Elias Pettersson. He played wing last year in Sweden.

As long as KK is projected to be a C, then teams aren’t having to choose by position.

 

[CauZuki]

No he will break that tradition and come and play with Petersson on the Canucks...you guys have way too many Finns. Will even offer a good ole Canadian py... er d-man in Gudbranson.

Finnish god Saku Koivu declared that he is destined to the Montreal Canadiens...

 

[ijk]

It's just straight up stupid to live in the past and ignore all the major changes Finland has done, and the results it has lead to.

Granlund is from fair play era, these kids aren't. Not to mention the differences between Kakko& Granlund as players.

This doesn’t in any way relate to what I wrote. I just talked about pre-NHL hype with regards to Granlund.

But yes, Finland has improved in the way young players are brought up. Agreed.

 

[member 157595]

I hope he turns into the best player in the league just so I have ample reason to say the name Kaapo Kakko.

Jack Hughes? May as well be John Smith. Snooze.


The older I get, the more I base my feelings on prospects on how fun their name is to say.

This is exactly why it was so disappointing when Robin Big Snake didn't rise to the occasion.

 

[BB88]

This doesn’t in any way relate to what I wrote. I just talked about pre-NHL hype with regards to Granlund.

But yes, Finland has improved in the way young players are brought up. Agreed.

It's still, and again stupid when the 2 are very different players. When someone uses Granlund against Kakko they should think what kept Granlund down, and could those same things happen with Kakko.
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/150787311/edit
There's not a damm major flaw to Kakkos game.

 

[ijk]

It's still, and again stupid when the 2 are very different players. If they played the same game it would be better, now it's just laughable.

There's not a damm major flaw to Kakkos game.

Again, not what I was replying to.

 

[BB88]

Again, not what I was replying to.

In a way it is, you just won't think about it.

Granlund had massive hype, he didn't 100% get to his hype level at the NHL. ask why, what stopped him from becoming that player.
Then now that he& his hype is mentioned with Kakko you have to ask could those things hold Kakko down and him potentially reaching his ceiling.

So explain how they do.
How is Granlund potentially a negative factor in Kakkos potential/how we should see him.

The end result is it's ....ng stupid to bring up Granlund here and try to use his hype against Kakko, ignoring the changes made in on ice, off ice training, nutrition, development of Barkov/Rantanen/Aho/Laine/Heiskanen post Granlund.

 

[Dessert Nights]

Matthews vs Laine is so last season, can't wait for this one!

 

[LOFIN]

Matthews vs Laine is so last season, can't wait for this one!

This time it's more similar players so it's way more interesting though.

 

[Avsavsavsavsavs]

Hughes is phenomenal, and I have no doubt that he will be a great NHL player, but Kakko is electric and physical and most importantly NHL ready. Give me Foppa2.0

 

[AD1066]

isnt this the second Kappa thread the OP has started on the subject?

Third if you include Reddit. And then some posts in the Jack Hughes prospect thread casting doubt on his defensive game. It's a valid discussion given Kakko's excellent start but I'm sensing an agenda here, like we had with the Laine contingent.

 

[BoneDocUK]

I take Kaapo Kakko on the name alone. "Jack Hughes" has all the zing of a washed-up 80s ballad singer reconstituted in a midday soap opera as the aging, nightclub-owning lech.

But "Triple-K" fizzes like a booze-infused bath bomb or a powerful firework rolled out at the end of a long summer evening, dynamic, explosive and even hypnotic, the kind of player who is instantly recognizable on a jersey or bottle of rare bourbon, lifting fans out of their seats. Bring on Kakko!

 

[ijk]

In a way it is, you just won't think about it.

Granlund had massive hype, he didn't 100% get to his hype level at the NHL. ask why, what stopped him from becoming that player.
Then now that he& his hype is mentioned with Kakko you have to ask could those things hold Kakko down and him potentially reaching his ceiling.

So explain how they do.
How is Granlund potentially a negative factor in Kakkos potential/how we should see him.

The end result is it's ....ng stupid to bring up Granlund here and try to use his hype against Kakko, ignoring the changes made in on ice, off ice training, nutrition, development of Barkov/Rantanen/Aho/Laine/Heiskanen post Granlund.

I was just giving my perception on HFboard pre-NHL hype levels relating to MG, Barkov and Laine. I am talking about ”historical” numbers and saying NyQuil wasn’t wrong, although he got blasted by many. That is what I was interested in.

I am not interested in the why and how, although you want to drag it into the convo repeatedly.

I already said I agree that Finland has made major developments in junior and adult player development/system. I would have to be extremely stupid not to see or know that.

Kakko will be a baller. Time will tell if he will surpass Barkov or Aho/Laine. But I am quite sure he will at least be a top-4 Finnish forward in half a decades time.

 

[BB88]

I was just giving my perception on HFboard pre-NHL hype levels relating to MG, Barkov and Laine. I am talking about ”historical” numbers and saying NyQuil wasn’t wrong, although he got blasted by many. That is what I was interested in.

I am not interested in the why and how, although you want to drag it into the convo repeatedly.

I already said I agree that Finland has made major developments in junior and adult player development/system. I would have to be extremely stupid not to see or know that.

Kakko will be a baller. Time will tell if he will surpass Barkov or Aho/Laine. But I am quite sure he will at least be a top-4 Finnish forward in half a decades time.

I'll say it one more time and leave it at that.

If x wants to use Granlund as a negative for Kakko I want to know why and it shouldn't be that difficult to explain.

 

[ijk]

I'll say it one more time and leave it at that.

If x wants to use Granlund as a negative for Kakko I want to know why and it shouldn't be that difficult to explain.

Ask him.

Maybe he doesn’t respect the Finnish league and the hype surrounding Finnish players in Hfboards.

A wild guess.

He didn’t outright state that Kakko will suck. Only that he is cautious due to MG being a bust relative to expectations, kind of like Tuomo Ruutu was a bust a long time ago.

Maybe NyQuil is old and farts alot at home and is too lazy to open the windows in his apartment to get some fresh air.

How should I know?

For all I know he could be a sexually transmitted disease with a high IQ that is trying to replicate itself through hockey forums by making negative assertions about Finnish players and thus being able to hook up in real life with Swedish Ikea enthusiasts that live in Canada, and who are sexually aroused by negative assertions of Finnish players.

Everything is possible.

 

[brokenhole]

Finnish god Saku Koivu declared that he is destined to the Montreal Canadiens...

Boo.

 

[stampedingviking]

Whatever team drafts Hughes first overall, get ready for a summer full of Kakko > Hughes posts by Finns, if the Matthews and Laine draft was any indication.

This time they just might be right.

At this moment in time, I'd take Kakko over Hughes.

 

[stampedingviking]

when an actual paid NHL scout says something like this, then lets have a talk okay..I see a whole lot of nobodies being quoted here, no offense to Larry by the way...just the truth.

10 out of 10 actual NHL scouts just had Hughes as CLEAR #1 for Bobby Mac, just 2 weeks ago ...

What a surprise, NA scouts have a NA player as #1.

 

[AmericanDream]

What a surprise, NA scouts have a NA player as #1.

is there a chance they can be drafted by a team in Finland to play pro hockey??

 

[1OApick]

is there a chance they can be drafted by a team in Finland to play pro hockey??

Yes there is.

 

[AmericanDream]

Yes there is.

 

[HansonBro]

I thought Finland was only known for saunas, winter wars and goalies?

 

[LABound]

That young man is a force if I had a choice I'd take him over Hughes right now. Those chip plays by Hughes one on one won't work against professional players or even high end CHL defenders.

Hughes had great positioning and reads the Play exceptionally well .

But It doesn't even look close to me right now I take the Finn without hesitation.